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Hello I have a question, this article says that the jabiru is the largest flying bird in South America. I have reason to believe that's incorrect, see following info http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/accounts/information/Jabiru_mycteria.html#5f6e8e60628e8cb53b908c1aa8439616 and then look at the page for the Andean Condor http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/birds/andean-condor.html So I propose that it is removed, because some people could think it is correct... Monique Monique Pool 14:38, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

hey, i dont have a clue how all this family and genus stuff works, however there is an austrlaian and also an african jabiru

Xenorhynchus Australis - definition from gcide

Jabiru \Jab"i*ru\, n. [Braz. jabir['u], jabur['u].] (Zool.)

One of several large wading birds of the genera Mycteria and Xenorhynchus, allied to the storks in form and habits. [1913 Webster]

Note: The American jabiru (Mycteria Americana) is white, with the head and neck black and nearly bare of feathers. The East Indian and Australian (Xenorhynchus Australis ) has the neck, head, and back covered with glossy, dark green feathers, changing on the head to purple. The African jabiru (Mycteria Senegalensis or Ephippiorhynchus, Senegalensis) has the neck, head, wing coverts, and tail, black, and is called also saddle-billed stork. [1913 Webster]

both of the above sources are PD, but i dont know the topic well enough to be able to put them in. The bellman 09:40, 2005 Jan 31 (UTC)

The African stork is better known as Saddle-billed Stork. I'm not sure that the asian bird is a stork, if the scientific name is correct, I'll check jimfbleak 17:29, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

OK, the Asian bird is actually the Black-necked Stork Ephippiorhynchus asiaticus, never heard it described as a Jabiru before. These two storks are closely related to each other, but not to the S American bird, which is related to the Wood Stork. jimfbleak 17:34, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

The following info is from [1]

"Jabiru (Xenorhynchus asiaticus)

The Jabiru is also known as the Black-Necked Stork, and is found in North Eastern parts of Australia. The Jabiru grows to a height of about 1 metre tall and has long thin orange legs, a black and white marked body and :a shiny blue-black neck, with a long black beak" Tiles 05:57, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I've clarified the australasian link jimfbleak 06:11, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Image labelled as Jabiru has been moved by me to Black-necked Stork - see discussion above for source of confusion. jimfbleak 18:40, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

The only reason I put the image on the article page was because it was described as a Jabiru by Perth Zoo where I actually took the picture. Here is an image of the info box provided box the Zoo:

So I still am not clear on if is it a Jabiru or not??? SeanMack 12:54, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

There is a South American species known only as Jabiru. There is an Asian/Australian species known as Black-necked Stork in Asia, but often called Jabiru in Australia, pressumably because of its resmblance to the equlally large S Am bird.

So your bird is a Jabiru in Australia, but a B-n Stork everywhere else.

There is no common alternative name for the S. American bird, and its not even particularly closely related to the Oz bird, so the Oz bird in your zoo is entered here under its more accurate name, with a pointer to it from the Jabiru page. jimfbleak 14:39, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

-ok, that makes sense; one more thing though - what is the difference between: Ephippiorhynchus asiaticus, and Xenorhynchus asiaticus, The black-necked Stork page has the former but the zoo has the latter - asre these interchangable?

The Black-necked Stork was formerly Xenorhynchus asiaticus, the only member of the genus Xenorhynchus, but its close relationship with the African Saddle-billed Stork led to it being moved to Ephippiorhynchus (the older name, so takes priority). The Xenorhychus usage is obsolete - a Google search gives 820 hits against 45,000 for Ephippiorhynchus. I don't think Perth Zoo is at the cutting edge of taxonomy! jimfbleak 14:24, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

LOL. Maybe I should go back and tell them :-)