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This is an archive of past discussions. Please do not edit it, it is for reference purposes only. If you wish to continue a discussion here, please do so on my talk page.

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[edit] yeah i do know...

actually i'm trying to make an ratm itunes essentials page. no need to help me out though. yet.

Damaster-rapper (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 15:22, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of Brisbane Square Image

I don't know why the image of the Brisbane Square ( 850_385_DCM_Brisbane_Square.jpg ) is being deleted. The image was captured specifically for promotional material by Denton Corker Marshall, and is being represented as a creation of their works. I work for DCM ( User:Asperks ) and this image is regularly used in any architectural journal as a representation of their works. I have the entire folder of promotional images for web-sites sitting right in front of me, including the plans, elevations, sections, details, conceptual renderings and brief. This image is from that folder.

Sick of the link to the DCM wiki site. I've read through this list of discussion points. It certainly made clear some of the long-term issues with wikipedia, and how it's administered. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.108.117.164 (talk • contribs) 05:17, 9 January 2008

[edit] Rize of the Spirits

You placed an "Article for deletion" template on the article Rize of the Spirits, yet there appears to be no corresponding deletion discussion page. Do you wish to go ahead with the nomination? --Popplewick (talk) 20:55, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Ah, scratch that, I've found the relevant discussion and fixed the link accordingly. Cheers. --Popplewick (talk) 21:06, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dark Heresy (band)

Thanks for your reply J Milburn. I haven't worked out how to reply so that my reply follows yours (do feel free to tell me) but I have begun working on the article in my userspace and will message you again when I feel ready to have you review it. Thanks again. Dark Heretic (talk) 22:15, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Categories

Thanks for the note about categories. I just started fixing uncategorized articles and your note has helped me improve. Thanks again for taking the time to make WP better. Any other suggestions you have would be most welcome. Phyesalis (talk) 14:40, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for fixing this. It was late in this part of the world, but I should be more careful especially when I am feeling a bit weary. Cheers, Mattinbgn\talk 19:50, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Two mistakes today! I copied the link from the wrong browser tab. You fixed an AfD I closed incorrectly. I can't recall which one it was now, but thanks anyway. Sorry for any confusion. -- Mattinbgn\talk 14:21, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User:Dark Heretic/Dark Heresy (band)

Hello again J Milburn. When you have a moment, please do check out my article and, if you think it will do, please move it to the article space for me. There is more I intend to add with time, but I need to find all the necessary references. However it should be publishable already, I hope. I mainly used the article about Slayer to learn how to edit articles and then I checked my article against every article in the category British death metal musical groups. I think/hope it's better than most of them. If there's something I haven't done right, please let me know. Thanks. Dark Heretic (talk) 00:53, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dark Heresy

Thanks for al your help. A quick question about disambiguation - I assume someone out there will enter an article abot Dark heresy the role-playing game any day now, that's why I had the disambiguation text in there. Should I do anything about this or leave it as it is? (I'm no expert on the RPG so will not be writing that article, though of course I could start a stub if necessary.) Dark Heretic (talk) 18:23, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation

I understand. Thanks! Dark Heretic (talk) 18:49, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Birdbrain

Dude How do you know all this stuff about Birdbrain (band)? oh sorry man, but still how did you find it? oh and thanks for the help man. Right thanks again for sorta saving my page's ass —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davejeanyus (talk • contribs) 19:36, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Austin Symphonic Band

Dear J:

A while back, for some reason, you decided to get your jollies by deleting an article about the Austin (Texas) Symphonic Band. Your rationale for deleting the entry was "[a]rticle about a non-notable individual, band, service, website or other entity." Please refrain from deleting Wikipedia articles when you have no grasp of the subject matter. The group in question has been recognized as one of the best community bands in the country by the John Philip Sousa Foundation, which awarded the group its "Sudler Silver Scroll." It has now performed by invitation three times at the Midwest International Band and Orchestra Clinic in Chicago, Illinois, and has performed by invitation numerous times for both the Texas Bandmasters Association and the Texas Music Educators Association. Among community bands these are certainly "notable" accomplishments.

Maybe you don't like community bands, maybe you don't have a clue about them, but deleting wikipedia articles is pretty stupid to begin with. Mind your own damned business next time. 15.235.153.107 (talk) 14:38, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

In case the IP is shared and you do not catch my reply, please see your IP's talk page. J Milburn (talk) 14:55, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Connie Talbot

Added some more comments. — Dihydrogen Monoxide 21:37, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image Copyright Tag

Was not sure what type of copyright tag or what information was needed for the four images I put up on the Mindless Self Indulgence page. The four pictures were taken by me at two different concerts in the NY area. Not sure exactly what I should put or how to put it there. If you could get back to me when you can with some info I'd appreciate it. Tokelazor (talk) 21:53, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I believe I took care of the problem in its entirety, please let me know if there is more i need to do. Tokelazor (talk) 14:52, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] FAMULUS

In retrospect, I see that a prod would be a better idea. Thanks for pointing that out. RedZionX 17:35, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Connie Talbot image

Wait, i just re-read your message, is that the full email? could she have sent the permit to OTRS already? Email her and ask her if she did, or i'll contact an OTRS volunteer and ask at IRC. --Yamanbaiia(free hugs!) 19:14, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

:Ok, it seems she has sent a permit allowing the use of three pictures...but with no specification of WHICH pictures...could you email her again? maybe have her send you the permit this time instead of OTRS directly so it can be checked?--Yamanbaiia(free hugs!) 19:32, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

STOOOOP! an OTRS member contacted me and told me he found a second email with the pictures, everything is ok. The pictures will be up shortly. :) --Yamanbaiia(free hugs!) 19:45, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Your welcome, i'm glad i could be of help. :D --Yamanbaiia(free hugs!) 20:42, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Big Brother: Celebrity Hijack

Hi J Milburn, I am moving Big Brother: Celebrity Hijack back to Big Brother: Celebrity Hijack (UK). The page must follow the article naming guidelines as set by WP:BIGBRO and shouldn't be moved without a proper discussion first. If you feel the article shouldn't have (UK) at the end please start a proper discussion on the matter. Thanks ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 20:52, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ryburgh

Hello J Milburn.

I created the page Ryburgh and put the references there to ref the introduction with the OS map details but then was distracted and forgot to place the ref there. could you pleses undo you edit and replace the reference for me to use Haydnaston (talk) 00:47, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Anna

Thanks - she was a friend - I hadnt realised she had died - and I am still trying to find some more - she was closely involved with the onlywomen press in its early days as well SatuSuro 17:02, 12 January 2008 (UTC) Anna Livia Julian Brawn - sorry - full name - her parents had called her that for the joycean connection - she wrote as anna livia in the early years but the obits have put in her full name SatuSuro 17:07, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks - I am getting rusty - even the smallest cleanups are appreciated. Thanks SatuSuro 17:10, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Leeds Tigers

This is my first entry into the 'real' wikipedia and I probably need to leave the appropriate underconstruction for a few days. The committee are meeting to discuss ways to boost membership of the club and this is one of the strategies. Advice welcome [User talk:Tmcandrew|Terry] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tmcandrew (talk • contribs) 19:03, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

The AFD Barnstar
Even though I haven't seen you nominate any articles to AfD, I notice you nominate a lot of articles for speedy deletion and proposed deletion. I know from personal experience that that by itself sometimes creates conflict. For your boldness, I give you this barnstar. Kannie | talk 19:30, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deleted Film subpage

Well, that was quick, wasn't it? See User:Wikinews Importer Bot. I was in the middle of completing the directions on how to import wikinews items into articles. Also see n:Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#The Wikinews Importer Bot. RichardF (talk) 21:27, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Winterfold House School

I apologize. I did not know. :( Ohmpandya (Talk to Me...) 21:40, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Indian Creek Covered Bridge

Hi, I tagged it that way because to me it looked like that bridge does not exist in reality or that it is some sort of bridge build by two kids across a small creek (you know the ones kids build out of wood over a local small creek...something like that). Well, I just did a google search after I received your message...I have to admit that I was completely wrong...I stand corrected. Next time I use google search before tagging. :-/ Regards LightAnkhC|MSG 16:31, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

  • I received your reply. And...yes, G1 does not include what I thought it includes. I'm sorry. I will read WP:CSD as suggested. LightAnkhC|MSG 16:38, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
  • No problem, I'm fine with that :-) LightAnkhC|MSG 16:57, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User:Excirial/recent2.js

This was originally posted in the article space- I have moved it to the title above. J Milburn (talk) 19:03, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Hmm, No wonder it didn't work as intended! I completely forgot that i needed to add "User:" before the page title. Im pretty sure you saved me at least 30 minutes of code staring to find some non excistant bug. Thanks a lot for doing so!. --Excirial (Talk,Contribs) 19:08, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting the Skinning.net page

I appreciate you doing what you do but you deleted a page that DID hold some 'notable refference' while stating it did not. Skinning.net is one of the oldest skinning community sites on the internet. Your deletetion was uncalled for and you offered no 'advice', even after it was asked for, in order to keep the page on the site. You also deleted an image that was clearly stated who holds the copyrights for the 'possibility of copyright infringement'. I hold the copyrights to it, I am the artist. If your going to do a job then at least do it with some respect to those you are affecting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SKoriginals (talk • contribs) 19:15, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for moving User:Orngjce223/aboutWiki

Apparently the school's keyboards are funky that way. Oh well... ~user:orngjce223 how am I typing? 00:36, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikit

FYI, I wasn't trying to double up on the deletion. At the time I loaded the Wikit page, there was no tag on it. I investigated it, came to what appears to be the same conclusion you did, and then tagged it for deletion with Twinkle. Twinkle will normally stop if it sees another AfD or CSD tag on the page, but I've noticed that it seems to ignore {{prod}} tags for some reason. Either that or we just added them at nearly the exact same time. Gromlakh (talk) 17:34, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Not a problem. Keep up the good work! Gromlakh (talk) 17:39, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD:Wikit

This is from the ex-author of the recently deleted Wikit page, Ax3l lX (talk) 20:02, 19 January 2008 (UTC). In the case of failing memory, Wikit is a Wikipedia based game that relies on the use of links to come to a desired article in a specific number of turns. I completely understand your approach to its deletion, it would appear, as J Milburn noted, to be "a non notable game made up in school one day;" however, I feel that the game does have a viable foothold in American high school and college circles. It is understood that I took the wrong approach to posting it, especially in the claim of when and where it was invented (at the time I was perhaps, as Uncle G noted, 'Yet another group of schoolchildren [that] have thought that they invented this game and have come to Wikipedia to write up their claim to fame.') It is completely true that I did not invent the game, nor as Metropolitan90 showed, do I have even the smallest claim to that title.

However, I feel as if the page maintained by Metropolitan90 is in itself proof of the game's widespread acceptance and use. Perhaps in its current state, Wikit is missing a key component for indoctrination as a true game, but it must be shown that Soccer was not always "the most popular sport in the world", nor has Baseball always been "known as America's pastime." A game comes from the bottom and works its way to the top. Furthermore, Uncle G noted that Google search returned no results; however, this is not entirely true. There are numerous hits under "wikipedia game" from various wikipedia enthusiasts who play the nameless game with their friends. These include many blogs and forums were players post topics and then compete against numerous adversaries across the country, and indeed, the whole world. This link might explain it better: http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=108654 .

I completely understand your angle, and actually, i completely agree with the deletion of my article. It was biased, and a selfish act. However, I am not writing this post to complain, nor actually, to even dispute the deletion. I feel as if Wikit, or however the game should be named, is worthy of an article on Wikipedia. I feel as if Metropolitan90's list of 20+ previous Wikit articles and the various worldwide blogs associated to the continuation of the game, defends its right to a single page which would link the whole community of players together. And now I come to my point.

As the two main contenders to its existence, Uncle G and J Milburn, I come not to dispute your claim, but rather, to ask for your help. The unnamed game requires a place where players from all over can come together; users should be able to examine other players methods and techniques, post house variations, and collectively decide on a name for the game. What better place for this than the very core of the game itself? In this quest I realize that I need some experienced help; being that you two found my article and posted it for deletion astonishingly quickly, I was hoping that either of you, or both, could direct me on a path that would render the article undeletable, due to its validity and correctness. There has to be a way to insure the article's survival, so that current and future gamers will be able to band together under their comman pastime.

If, however, you see my plight as a ridiculous waste of time, I thank you for yours. otherwise, I will await your consensus. Thank you both! Ax3l lX (talk) 20:02, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of Delfín Fernández (Los Salvajes)

Dear J Milburn. I have modified the original article and i think that the new one really shouws that los Salvajes, and Mr Delfin Fernandez are relevant Musicians. If you think that is not enought please knidly let me know wich kind of "proofs" you'd need to change your mind. Other proof is that they were included in the North American collection: "Transworld Punk Rave - Up" (Compilation that is mentioned in other wikipedia page [1]) And they appear in the cover of the volume 2 of the collection [2] Thank you for yor attention

--Adolfo.FZ (talk) 20:57, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 4chan LEAD

i think the attacks against ebaumsworld and hal turner should be only briefly mentioned, as they didn't recieve much media attention compared to the other things.--Seriousspender (talk) 11:56, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

You tell me. Instead of changing the license and making me responsible for it, you choose the correct license. I'm reverting it, but feel free to put the correct license explaining why.--Seriousspender (talk) 17:10, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Copyrighted by who, or what?--Seriousspender (talk) 17:14, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
It is a better that this what brought to my attention now than another time. Have a free internet. --Seriousspender (talk) 17:36, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Feel free to check the license information on Image:4chan Pflugerville bomb threat.png is correct.--Seriousspender (talk) 18:35, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

--Seriousspender (talk) 18:43, 20 January 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Deletion of Kettleby Valley page

Why are you deleting my page for Kettleby Valley? This camp is a significant business in its local area, helping define the history of the town it is a part of. I have barely started making the entry and you've deleted it swiftly. Please restore the page so I can continue my edits. --Brianjjackson (talk) 19:24, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reply to your question

Reverting your edit was an accident. I had been playing "catch-up" trying to keep up with Lumpx and his POV edits which were nothing more than genre trolling on the band articles for bands he didn;t like. Your edit got caught up in the mix. Sorry 'bout that. Have a nice day! 156.34.208.112 (talk) 20:34, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Debate over Article for Deletion: Clemson University football recruiting scandal

Clemson University football recruiting scandal has been nominated for deletion per WP:AFD. Please participate in the debate here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clemson University football recruiting scandal, if possible. Thanks. Thör hammer 09:02, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

  • J, I don't remember exactly why I added this, I was making typical notifications per WP:AFD and thought you were one of the page editors. If not, my bad, KTHNX. Thör hammer 01:07, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Google Maps on front page

There was, I just removed it. Just to let you know they weren't mistaken. Woody (talk) 19:56, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

  • It's a collage. Check the source. -- Bellwether BC 20:06, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Some reviews

Hey, there are a few reviews I was wondering if you would comment on: Wikipedia:Peer review/Opeth and Wikipedia:Featured article review/Nightwish. Thanks, —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 00:59, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Its all done (axept one, I left a note). —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 23:10, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
I left another note. I know your not big on FAC, but if your up to it, would you mind re-commening on Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Alice in Chains? The FAC has been restarted so I am trying to get more comments again. Thanks, —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 04:20, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
There is another note on the "ellipsis" deal. Thanks for the reviews also. —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 22:31, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Originate Labs

Sorry about that. I assume it has been changed. And thanks for the username comment! WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDENplay it cool. 22:07, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Right to vanish?

Where did you get the idea that user talk pages are deleted when people claim to be leaving? Friday (talk) 21:27, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Roaring 20

Under your criteria, a music group can be notable if it has performed on something like a well known tv show. As noted in the article, the Roaring 20 has performed on the Price is Right, which according to your rules should make it a viable candidate for an article. Sayamsayam (talk) 22:34, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Roaring20

Check out this site http://www.geocities.com/sdontrelle/kidsplash/gameshowworld/tpir.htm In 2005 it lists that the Princeton Roaring Twenties (typo) performed Make Me Lose Control. Sayamsayam (talk) 23:09, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of page phpmycomic

Was removed for advertising? Page is intended for information about a project with more details coming. There are for examples tons of entries for Marvel comics etc. Why was it removed? Is there a rule I have overlooked? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Programme (talk • contribs) 21:30, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Devious T.

I have tried to put it in a few times. he is a rapper from Columbus, and i heard him through myspace. it's his official myspace page bio. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stretchnuttz (talk • contribs) 22:09, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent Opeth edit

Thank you for that one... it was a bit of a ping-pong page for a bit. Same situation is happening on other pages. Perhaps, if you have time, you could do a similar "opethizing" to remedy this situation. Also, since you are up-to-date on the whole "notable/official" discussion... you may have a comment on a discussion taking place at admin john's talk page. (User talk:John#Your thoughts) Have a nice day! 156.34.219.91 (talk) 17:22, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lyn Z, 3RR

Hi, thank you for the answer to my question, if I've listed the age changes as vandalism, then it's a mistake on my part, on the Lyn Z article I usually only list removal of content as vandalism because I believe it is done with malicious intent, but I may have gotten carried away?  Doktor  Wilhelm  15:36, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Lab art space, speedy deletion

Re this page - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_LAB Can you leave it up for one day? I'm working on it with another group of people so I need to save so they can contribute. We'll be adding more info as we go. Thanks Dronthego (talk) 19:38, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

super, thanks. Dronthego (talk) 19:49, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Chafik charobim.jpg

It is clear from the image page that this is only used on the article for the guy himself. Why can you not just fix it rather than add a tag that may mean it is deleted? I'm not that familiar with images. It happened to be on my watchlist from way back for reasons I can not now recall. --Bduke (talk) 22:28, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

OK, fair enough, but perhaps you could have mentioned the portrait aspect somewhere. It is an issue, I agree. I wish I could remember why it is on my watchlist. It certainly goes back a long time. --Bduke (talk) 23:28, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Leona Lewis showcase America.jpg

Click here — Wiki edit Jonny (talk) 20:04, 27 January 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Habib Wahid AFD

Thank you for withdrawing the AFD. I hope you see how preposterous the AfD was in the first place. Unfortunately I find this kind of systemic bias to be all too evident these days among the deletionists. I guess we'll just have to live with it. --Peripatetic (talk) 22:53, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] MSI genre

You're more than welcome to talk to them, this has been talked about on the MSI discussion page, as such there are other editors involved in reverting the changes.  Doktor  Wilhelm  22:18, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't mean to scare them off, though there is a section for this on the MSI talk page found here, containing a slightly offensive comment they left on the talk page.  Doktor  Wilhelm  22:30, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mindless Self Indulgence

I have actually taken it up on the talk page, but that got deleted. What annoys me is that I've included an actual interview from the band which states the genre of Industrial Jungle Pussy Punk. I dont think citing VHS and Rolling Stones is viable.

Jelnock (talk) 22:24, 28 January 2008 (UTC)Jelnock (talk)

[edit] Question

Dude did you just redirect the list of major characters of Billy and Mandy to list of characters from Billy and Mandy?Crips r us (talk) 22:53, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] OK

Ok. Thanks for telling me. But The Cartoon Network project told me to do it. So I'll just do somthin else.Crips r us (talk) 23:00, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks. Crips r us (talk) 23:10, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Your Comments

Hi, Thanks for your message. I closed it per guideline here.

  • There was a clear consensus
  • There consensus was for keep and so no administrator action was required

It did not need a non-admin closure, but nor did it require an admin closure, so I saved admins' time by closing it. If you still have any question or comments (or advice!) please feel free to leave me a message. Tiddly-Tom 17:03, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Veprim bakija

May be i was wrong, but that article seemed an autobiography to me in foreign language and quoting CSD:G1 " ..........material not in English ..........". Please tell me if i am taking the wrong meaning of CSD:G1. Thanks! --SMS Talk 12:05, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh! i am really sorry i misread that! i apologize for my action! --SMS Talk 12:10, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] You...

What does you being an admin have to do with me being wrong? I may be wrong, and you may be an admin, but what is the relationship between the two? If there is no relationship, why mention it? Anyway, J, look. I'm wrong? Fine. I insulted you? Alright, apologies. But policy wanks are still policy wanks, and I still thought you were being an idiot when I wrote my reply. Wikipedia has a very different outlook on research than I was ever taught, so forgive me that "confusion". Howa0082 (talk) 20:59, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] clarification

I wrote about the Kokosingers page. I am a newbie to Wikipedia and don't quite know what's considered newsworthy and what isn't. I was just looking for that page and read all the comments considering its deletion, and felt like chiming in. Just writing to say oops, sorry, and thanks for all the good work.

PuppyTN (talk) 16:50, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Total Recut

Hi. I believe you deleted a page I created about the online startup, Total Recut. Please replace it immediately for the reasons stated below. Ragaman7

This article is about a web startup that has received significant national and international media attention, and has take some significant actions that other people should know about and should be recorded in an encyoplopedia, speicifically, taking on a series of YouTube takedown claims and successfully having their YouTube account and videos restored. Many newspapers, tv and radio stations and online journalistic publications have written articles about Total Recut and so it should be allowed to have a Wikipedia entry. Also, the owner of the site, Owen Gallagher, has authorised permission to use descriptions of the site similar to the 'about us' text on the site itself, even though the page created on Wikipedia does not copy and paste any text, but merely contains similar wording to the 'about us' description. Please remove the speedy deletion tag and make sure that this article is added to Wikipedia immediately. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ragaman7 (talk • contribs) 15:37, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. Here is a link to a page on Total Recut that displays links to many of the articles that have been written about it in local and national newspapers. http://www.totalrecut.com/press.php There is also a note that says any text from the site may be used freely elsewhere on the web. Do you require any further evidence? Thanks again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ragaman7 (talk • contribs) 09:15, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey. Thanks for your feedback. I've rewritten the article and I was wondering if you wouldn't mind having a look at it for me? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ragaman7/Total_Recut --Ragaman7 (talk) 18:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey J.

Thanks so much for your help with reformatting the article. Fantastic job and greatly appreciated. Unfortunately, somebody seems to have nominated the article for deletion for the reason that they believe TotalRecut is a 'non-notable website.' Si there anything we can do about this to remove the 'article for deletion' from the header of the article? The nomination was made by Asod123123 and it seems to suggest that the site has received less than 1000 hits. My stats show that TotalRecut are getting over 75,000 hits a month. Can you suggest the best course of action here as I don't want the article deleted now that both you and I have put time and effort into it...

--Ragaman7 (talk) 19:24, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Project Chanology

You really think it's ready for WP:GAC? Even though it has to be constantly locked semi-protect due to anon-ip vandalism and new user vandalism, and also as new info is relatively regularly being added to it, wouldn't that conflict with criteria (3) and (5) from WP:WIAGA ? If you feel it really is of WP:GA quality - well you haven't significantly contributed to the article, so feel like doing a GA Review? Cirt (talk) 15:50, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

You bring up a good point. Perhaps after some more time has elapsed I'll take the article for a Peer Review, before going for WP:GAC. Cirt (talk) 00:40, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of Director, Kevin Maistros

You've deleted this page twice. This time you noted that you need to see sources. What sort of sources would you like to see? There are plenty around, I just don't know how to properly list them. However, I see many other music video directors on this site with much less reference or available information. Some just say "so and so is a music video director" but their pages are not deleted.

Instead of deleting the page right off the bat, maybe you could try researching yourself, or allowing those of us who do - to edit the page and add in all of the information you are asking for.

Beaurouge (talk) 22:19, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for your response. I had planned to include cite links within the body of the article and it's sections but needed to write the actual article itself before I could include random references.

http://www.myspace.com/kfilm - his filmmaker myspace profile - check his blog for information regarding some of his music videos http://www.virb.com/thekevin/videos - his virb page with videos

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=243809 - Reference to This Providence's Music Video for "My Beautiful Rescue" which was commissioned by Warner Music Group/Atlantic Records

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=169788 - Another music video production reference

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/the-new-tragic-a-half-cocked-smile-and-two-guns-blazin/4256086333 - information on the right cites Maistros as the director

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Providence - Linked in the band's profile

http://mvdbase.com/tech.php?last=Maistros&first=Kevin - MVDbase profile on Kevin Maistros but appears to be dated and incomplete.

http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:Wgd_LIjP3PUJ:www.mvwire.com/dynamic/article_view.asp%3FAID%3D11120+%22kevin+maistros%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=32&gl=us&client=safari - Google Cached article referencing Kevin as the Director of Photography on a music video

http://www.lessavenged.com/home/news_archive.php?post=003 - Reference from the record label on another music video - check the section titled "Blane"

http://www.raincityambience.com/_interviews/blaneinterview.php - Interview with the band, Blane that mentions Maistros in reference to his video for them and the concept behind it.

http://www.thestaticage.com/canopy.php?action=fullnews&showcomments=1&id=86 - One band's news on their website regarding the wrap of production on a music video directed by Maistros.

Beaurouge (talk) 23:25, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

None of the references I've posted are forum posts. There is a very well respected news reporting website within the music community, AbsolutePunk.net which allows comment posting in response to their news articles. As well, there are direct sources from Record Label websites which show he is in fact a music video director who works often. As well, there are other news reporting websites like MVwire and he's also present on MVDbase which is not a user generated database. I've read the pages you've pointed to regarding notability and reliable source but the references that I have found (and still looking for more) are only factual based reporting of projects he's been involved with or is in the process of doing. Not one gives an opinion based report of him as a person, and stick to reporting. I don't understand how this particular music video director is any less notable than some of the ones that are listed, who do not have any references at all.

Kevin Maistros also runs a very large film maker's group on MySpace which is one of the largest film maker communities on the web right now and is known throughout the independent film maker's community from that as well. Often teaching, assisting, and offering resources to many aspiring or independent film makers in general. http://groups.myspace.com/filmmakers

I'm trying to actively add upcoming directors and artists who I feel deserve to be documented and followed through their career - who already have a body of work for notable artists. I wanted to start with Maistros. He just worked on a music video for Angels and Airwaves, is working on several new ones for Puddle of Mudd, and several other smaller but signed bands that will have all of their videos playing on Fuse and Mtv2. I'd say that makes him notable. Just as notable as other music video directors that are listed on Wiki who have also done music videos for major artists. Should I just return to his article later when there are more sources to point to? If I completed the article before posting and then put it up in it's complete form would you reserve your judgments for the completed article? There are a group of us involved in this, and it would be nice to have some time to finish the article and list all the references (others have more), before it's taken down so swiftly.

Beaurouge (talk) 00:09, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, and we would love for you to help us improve the article! That is a wonderful solution. Beaurouge (talk) 21:25, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] re:Devourment

I gave a review for you. Thank you for asking me also. I'm not too good with reviewing, I don't think. Would you mind reviewing United Abominations at Wikipedia:Peer review/United Abominations/archive1? Thanks, —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 00:50, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I'll add a review Wednesdays most likely as I'm off that day. M3tal H3ad (talk) 06:54, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] En-pedia main page

Thanks a lot!!

I am the user who contributed the ship on fire pictures, the user-me on commons can confirm that and besides, see this edit history. I know that it is on the main page, and is/was also on wikinews:featured picture. The photos were intended to be used on the wiki, that's sure. Cheers, --TheFEARgod (Ч) 21:55, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dieselpunk

Good day. I'd like to ask you to check out the Deletion review on the Dieselpunk page which you removed. I'm hoping that the page could be restored. Ottens (talk) 10:04, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your time. Some confusion appears to have been caused by my writing of a new Dieselpunk article, where it was presumed this new version was rather a recreation of the old one... which was deleted because it was basically a bunch of bull-- I mean: original research. Ottens (talk) 10:14, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
I hope that my version was at least of better quality than the one created by Piecraft, which lacked any sources whatsoever, and seemed only to detail his concept of a Dieselpunk alternate history, where mine cited sources, detailed influences of the genre and described its different forms according to setting. In regard to notability: after being initially coined by Children of the Sun game designers (making it notable as far as I'm concerned), Google now produces more than 12,000 results for "dieselpunk"; it's listed in the wiktionary; an elaborate chronology is available, listing dozens of works labeled "dieselpunk". The genre is relatively new, hence it being less familiar to many unlike steampunk which has found widespread acceptance. Nonetheless, dieselpunk is vividly discussed and generally accepted within the steampunk community. Ottens (talk) 10:37, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding your message.

Hello. Thank you for your message. Just to be clear, I never called your deletion "suspicious." What I said, in my message to Ottens, was that the reasoning given, i.e., "recreation of previously deleted material," was "specious." Perhaps that was a harsher word than was necessary, but it is what I said. I have no reason to believe your actions were "suspicious." Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 15:36, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Honestly, it never even crossed my mind to bring the matter directly to you. I do not know why, but it simply seemed more appropriate to take it to a review. There was certainly no offense meant. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 16:16, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Little Flower Hall

Hello. Thanks for contacting me about the article on the Little Flower Hall. This is a building of enormous historical importance in Bray, and while I am not educated enough in this field to complete the article, my hope is that having begun it, someone will add to the article. Please do not delete this page or link it to the school. Many thanks--Kobroinstc (talk) 12:04, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tetic

I was asked by my employer, to write a brief description of our company and see how to get it on wikipedia like our competition has done. The first submission was detailed, however much less "advertising" than our competitions pages accepted on wikipedia. I toned things down, erased a bunch of stuff as to not "blatantly advertise". I'd like to get the page up on wikipedia however, the second page was deleted for being about a "person" or something of the sort. I appreciate your discretion regarding your acceptance but regardless, what do I have to do to get the page accepted. I won't try to advertise, I won't include a company history or overview like the first submission that was viewed as, and deleted for "blatant advertising".

What do I have to include, or for that matter not include to get a page accepted?

Thank you for your assistance,

kextra —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kextra (talk • contribs) 03:42, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Page: Tiago Rodrigues

I don’t understand why you deleted the page with the information about the Portuguese actor Tiago Rodrigues. Is an international actor, and several theatres in europe reminds us to publish his biography in the wikipedia. Is a real person related with the arts: writer, actor, director, etc. I know the information wasn’t exhaustive but I’m working on it. I was planning to ad the titles of his books and the plays, etc. Can’t I do that? Thanks in advance. Msabizarro (talk) 13:01, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy criteria Igor A Aleksandrov

Message received and understood. Thanks :) JPilborough-Leave Message 13:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Main Page

This was probably a good idea. Although I was about to answer him (albeit not in a civil way, so maybe it's for the better). Cheers, Ouro (blah blah) 15:42, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

This borders on WP:GIANTDICK if you ask me. --Ouro (blah blah) 15:51, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of Station Sound article

Hi, was just wondering if there is any way i could change said article to prevent it from being deleted. They are an up and coming band in Motherwell, and I was making a page to try and help promote them, thanks,

Anthony.

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SogoTrade

Thanks! - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 15:59, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Page: Tiago Rodrigues

Thanks for your suggestion. I can do article in word and then put it in the sandbox, for you to see it, before I publish it. Is that ok? Thanks again —Preceding unsigned comment added by Msabizarro (talk • contribs) 16:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Clutton, Cheshire

Hello!

I apologize if I nominated the article under a wrong speedy criteria and, thus, came across as overzealous in doing so. At the time of my nomination of the article, the creating editor, Jimbob64 (talk · contribs), had no other contributions listed and a quick glance at his/her talk page showed me that there was a notice dated January 24, 2008 by Milk's Favorite Cookie (talk · contribs) regarding an article of the same title nominated for speedy deletion under WP:CSD#G1. Seeing that the article had been nominated and speedied under that criteria before, I confirmed to myself that I was doing the right thing nominating it for deletion because, even though the village may exist, I got the impression that the article was not created for the purpose of providing information on the village, rather I got the impression of someone who wanted to have a little fun at Wikipedia's expense and, possibly, was from said village. So my initial assumption of good faith was overturned by the little evidence that was presented to me. You're absolutely right when you say that deletion is not always the answer. I fully agree and I don't try to nominate articles to which deletion would not be the right answer. But I really believed that this article (again, whether I was right or wrong in the end) should have been deleted so I proceeded to nominate it. I'm glad to see that it's fixed and, again, I apologize for coming across as overzealous in my initial reaction to its creation. However, I have not changed my mind as to the intent of the creating editor. Jimbob64 (talk · contribs) currently has 2 listings in his contributions: one being the creation of the Clutton article and the other one being this edit. It is my belief that he/she is here to have some fun at our expense and he decided (twice) to do that with a village that exists but on which there is no article.
Anyways, thanks for your note and I will be sure to be more meticulous in the future when deciding what should be speedied versus what shouldn't as well as deciding the proper criteria to nominate it.
Have a good one!
Peace! SWik78 (talk) 17:15, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Category:Hacker

I agree with you that this category is useless. Do you have any intention of putting it up for deletion? ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 18:29, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

No need for thanks. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 23:18, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article :Chemtrials

Recently, i noticed you added a PROD tag to Chemtrials.. and the original author has reverted the tag and continued to make edits to this article.. However, I still think it sounds like original research, as well as being a disputed area and quite controversial on the rest of the internet.. I've already put a CSD template in yesterday or the day before, so could you take a look, give it a 2nd opinion? thanks PyromaniacTom (talk) 09:50, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again, makes it seem like it was just a very misguided article. PyromaniacTom (talk) 16:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Biopunk

Can I ask why you thought that my edit was worth reverting without an edit summary? The category is absolutely useless. J Milburn (talk) 23:06, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I didn't realize that Category:Hacker had been deleted. Thank you for making me realize this. --Loremaster (talk) 15:22, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] re. Devourment

Yeah, it passed. If I could canvass some help from you now; Silverchair (comments on talk page would be sweet) or Wikipedia:Peer review/Bernard Fanning/archive1 - either would be great. Cheers, dihydrogen monoxide (H20) 02:05, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I <3 you. dihydrogen monoxide (H20) 06:09, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Follow Up - 'Station Sound' article

Thanks much for the help, and i realise theres no real way i can justify the articles existance for the time being. On another note, i was wondering if there is anyway i could have a copy of the text from the page, so i can post it on the band's own webpage. I, fooishly, didn't make a copy. Many thanks in advance, Anthony. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.97.32.183 (talk) 18:53, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Station Sound article

Thank you very much, very helpful with this whole situation, i apologise for the lack of clarity in my posts, i'm still getting used to using wiki, thanks for all the help, i have the text now. Excellently dealt with my good man, Anthony (Welshceltic)

[edit] This

[3] (See your edit summary). Thanks! SpencerT♦C 21:54, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry

I just got that on TV. I type faster than I think. :P --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 22:49, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kosovo recognition

I quote from News.au: "Mr Rudd said the Australian Government believed an independent Kosovo would be a good thing and it would give it official diplomatic recognition soon." So if some country maybe HAVE recognize Kosovo, Autralia shouldn't be on this section. Kormin (talk) 23:19, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hey J

Read the sources in those countries that are supposed to already recognize Kosovo. None actually has. NikoSilver 23:29, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

No all of them confirm they will in the future. Even Switzerland. NikoSilver 23:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Lol, sorry you don't like those columns. (why?) :-) NikoSilver 23:35, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
No worries. This maybe shouldn't look like a contest over how many will/won't. We have all the time in the world when the dice is cast to make two columns of those who have and those who haven't; there won't be a third. NikoSilver 23:42, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
I'll merge it. NikoSilver 00:11, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
On what basis? Let's talk there please. NikoSilver 00:14, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I can has thankspam?

Quick, let's delete the front page!

[edit] Kosova

Kun üstünlüğü ile evrensel insan hakları, demokrasi ve çoğulcu değerlerin geliştirilmesi gerektiğine inanmaktadır. Türkiye, Kosova ile komşuları arasında karşılıklı güven ve işbirliği ortamının yaratılmasının zaruret teşkil! --Lemmey (talk) 19:35, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Main page vandalism

Hi J: Thanks for your update. I tried to edit the article to remove the offensive picture, but couldn't find the image anywhere. So I made the assumption it was something in the main page template itself, which I know only administrators can modify. It wasn't until later that I realized it might have been a vandalized template, and by that time somebody had already found and fixed it. They'd make a better detective than I would! : ) MeegsC | Talk 10:36, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Main Page/HelpBox

Bloody Signbot [4]. Heh, ty pal. ☯Ferdia O'Brien (T)/(C) 19:31, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] NATO

http://www.nato.int/ "some random logo type thing with a dud rationale." appears at the official NATO website and not the .jpg file you reverted to. --Avala (talk) 20:25, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] My unacceptable behaviour

I know but there are two places in the same district with the same name. Probably an article covering both of them you would also think unacceptable. Well I;ve fixed A Don as I feel appropriate. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:36, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Libris Mortis

I left some good comments in the DYK "waiting room" regarding your article Libris Mortis. Cleaning up, filling out, or otherwise improving D&D articles would be a full time job for at least three people! --House of Scandal (talk) 22:40, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

Quite opposite. It is here. --BorgQueen (talk) 18:11, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lamb of God (band)

I have a request for you. Could you please place a semi-protection on Lamb of God (band)? The genres are constantly being vandalized. So much so, that I will be on the page and ten minutes later i have to go to the history section of the page and retrieve the previous version. It would be very much appreciated for me, as well as anyone esle that watches the page. —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 19:01, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't have rollback. I've heard of it, but I don't see a difference between that and the undo button. Do you reccomend it? If so, where do I apply? Sorry, I feel like a 20 questions game. :P Is rollback only available to established users? If the vandalism continues after the block expires, is there a permenant block available? I just managed to ask four questions in one message. —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 19:22, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
I get it. Sure, I wouldn't mind if you gave it to me. You may as well because if I requested it you would probably beat someone else to the punch! I never thought of that but I suppose you are right, I am more of an editor than vandal watcher. I have placed hidden comments but they usually get removed within a short time of placing them. I'd say Lamb of God is the biggest atraction for vandalism that is on my watchlist. As an off topic question, would you mind performing a copyedit on Black Tide? It is a very short article, but I want it to be GA if I can get a picture. I suppose I would have to wait until the album is out for chart positoins and all that stuff. Thanks, —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 19:49, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Thank you! You did give it to me, I saw a rollback button on a history page. Again, thanks. —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 19:58, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Images are my weak spot on wiki, and I can't log on to flickr. Would you mind asking for the copyright to this image: [5]
Or any that you think would be better from here: [6] Thanks, —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 20:04, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
I am going to wait until a couple of weaks after the album is out and then nominate it. All the info on that page is contained within that article that I have (the Revolver citation) but I thought it would be better to use different sources, and Blabbermouth is the only reliable site that mentions them. The way I see it, if the article is written really good, then it could be a GA. No matter how short it is. Check out Tapeworm (band). That is a current GAN. —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 20:32, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
[another message was left before this] If the article on Black Tide was created a couple of months ago, can it be on DYK? I noticed that the D&D book you renivated was (I think). —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 20:35, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
I wrote the history section just today. This is what it looked like earlier today. So, will it be eligable in a couple of days? And just so you know, I'm not the one who wrote Tapeworm, I was just using it as an example. —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 20:52, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Alright, thanks. I've never had an article on DYK, so I don't know the rules for it. —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 21:00, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
No, sorry. I don't get involved in role playing games. I won't know what I am doing if I look it over. —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 21:08, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations on your DYK!

Updated DYK query On 24 February 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Libris Mortis, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Congratulations and keep up the good work! Ruhrfisch ><>°° 22:49, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Voltaire

...By the way, you look a little like one of my favourite musicians! J Milburn (talk) 19:13, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] John Charles Dodson, 3rd Baron Monk Bretton

He's in the House of Lords, or the article claims he is. There is no way we can speedy someone who's in the HoL. J Milburn (talk) 18:52, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Grumbles something about unsourced claims. Google came back with a few results, none supporting the claim. But then again, someone who has a name consisting out of 3 words will probably just use a portion of that name. Excirial (Talk,Contribs) 19:02, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] myoutdoortv

need help understanding the deletion of the myoutdoortv article that was done today. The write up done yesterday caused a speedy deletion for blatant advertising which I totally understand and agree with...the re-write today was done to get rid of that sort of communication. Truly looking to get an about page with timeline, partners etc.. Put in a Hangon but and put info on talk page but deleted anyway - any help in understanding would be great. --Ajbaer2 (talk) 19:19, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] myoutdoortv

thanks so much for the quick response and I will review everything you sent. Once I resubmit is there any review time that goes into this or will i immediately be put up for removal again? Just want to make sure I am not flagged as a problem at this point as i am trying to better understand the policies - my review of other company sites made it seem like the re-write I submitted was in line with what others were doing.... --Ajbaer2 (talk) 21:10, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Labyrinth (band)

I answered your reply on the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Metal#Request for assessment: Labyrinth .28band.29 page. Hope that helps. Just notice that I DID reword the bio that is already on the page, from the site I got it from. --Crash Underride 07:03, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

J, You need to check the article when you get on here! It's now TEN TIMES as large as it was when I started work on it! It's good too. You may see somethin' that I can take out, if so let me know. I used up BlabbermouthNews.net, I went through everything that mentioned Labyrinth, I added ALOT of those entries as I thought they were noteworthy, it not let me know, and for a couple of instances I added multiple references as I figured you could never have too many lol. Also, if you could, could you add a reference list that scrolls? I can't find out how. Though, I just thought of a way for me. If it's not there when you get on, could you put one on? The page has 25-27 references so far. I just need to find stuff for the 1990s now. --Crash Underride 08:39, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Did that, fixed the refs, condensed some single sentence parargraphs into one paragraph. I'm takin' a break for a few hours cuz I might just go insane if I don't. --Crash Underride 17:04, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
I swear I think I know the band better than the most hardcore fans lol. I should be placed in the band for all that work lol. --Crash Underride 18:06, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Non free images

Ok, but I have several questions about all this image stuff. I have pretty much given up altogether on image issues because I don't understand the tons of details. Lostprophet's album art is their own, fine. But if I change it a little and then make it my own slightly different version how do I upload that to Wikipedia and say it's mine and that I altered it a little? I'm not sure how to upload pictures to Wikipedia and tag them correctly with the right image tags, so I have pretty much given up. Also I like my talk page long. - Bagel7T's 08:15, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Alright, whatever, I don't really understand how the whole images thing works and I won't ask you to explain it to me, so it just dissaudes me from wanting to do anything with images. And if it's my choice, then I want to see how long it can get. - Bagel7T's 05:29, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of Green Dragons

This group in fact is notable in Slovenia, gets some media coverage and is one of the two biggest in the country. So I have restored the article. Greetings. --Tone 21:09, 29 February 2008 (UTC)