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Contents 1 Welcome! 2 16 in Shells 3 Boom vang 4 Fairlead 5 New armorment layout 6 River Picture 7 Re: Original Six 8 Re: Shields Up! 9 Thanks 10 List of river crossings 11 Wiki fixation? 12 Bexley Hall (disambiguation) 13 Runner II, SS-476 14 Bexley Hall 15 Homeports 16 redirects 17 Thanks 18 Washington Memorial Chapel & Valley Forge 19 USS Bellatrix (AKA-3) 20 Philly meetup 20.1 Philadelphia Meetup 3 21 Stackable ship infobox? 22 Announcement 23 manic depression 24 AWB and cats 25 USS St. Mary's (APA-126) 26 Re:Finals vs. wikipedia 27 Animated Turret 28 WikiProject Philadelphia Invite 29 Re: SHIPS tagging 30 Gaff 31 Wikimedia Pennsylvania 32 Thank You 33 Museum ships 34 Hilliers cave and geology assessment 35 My Editor Review 36 Thank you 37 My RfA 38 Thanks again 39 Re: Navsource reorganized 40 Thank you 41 Request for review 42 ISO Admonishment 43 Philly meetup #5 44 another answer 45 Wikipedia:Meetup/Philadelphia 5 46 Thanks for the Ace Reid pointers 47 Wikipedia:Meetup/Philadelphia 6 48 You're invited! 49 Planning for the 7th Wikipedia Meetup

[edit] Welcome!

Hello, J Clear, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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[edit] 16 in Shells

Absolutely! Any free picture of 16in shells would be good, but I am not sure if New Jersey would have shells up for display. I would imagine they would, since thats a part of the battleships history. As for the current 16" picture; I recieved word recently from one of the photo detectives that the image I uploaded may in fact be in the public domain. Aparently, the FAS website uses several DOD photo, and since the United States can not claim copyright on photos it takes (thank you, founding fathers) the fairuse tag on the page may soon become a PD tag.

On a similar but unrelated note: if you would like to uploaded pictures you take for use in Wikipedia and its various language spin offs you may want to think about creating an account on the commons. Doing this would allow us accsess to the photos and images even if they are not currently used in any article. TomStar81 04:43, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Boom vang

Excellent edit, I can only wish I wrote it myself !!

Frank van Mierlo 01:04, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fairlead

Not sure I can assist you from the post office viewpoint but I should remind you that sometimes you can find appropriate photos with a Wikipedia usable Creative Commons license on [www.flickr.com flickr]. ww2censor 03:50, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

What about this photo [1], though you would need the author to change the license? ww2censor 04:07, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New armorment layout

I reuploaded Image:Iowa Armament.JPG with a new number based key. Is this closer to what you had in mind? TomStar81 00:56, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] River Picture

Please see my response to your question on my talk page. -- Ram-Man 21:45, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Original Six

You got a point there. I went ahead and moved the template to "USN Original Six", per your suggestion. TomStar81 23:21, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Shields Up!

Yep, I saw the list of Susquehanna crossings and decided to create all of the shields that the page needed. The reason that I didn't make any four-digit shields is that there are no touring route shields for state routes higher than 999 in Pennsylvania. In fact, the only PennDOT markings for quadrant routes (SR 1000 to 4999) are on tiny white "reference markers".

Once you create more links for PA shields on the page, I'll make the necessary shields.

Eventually, I'll make a shield for every route in Pennsylvania, but you can only go so fast when you do them by hand. --TMF ^{T - C} 01:13, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the dab work on Susquehanna State Park (Pennsylvania) - I will expand it and add a locator map etc, next. Ruhrfisch 16:20, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of river crossings

I saw the great work you did on the Susqeuhanna river crossings. I would like to create a similar list for the Connecticut River. How do you obtain the bridge names (both road and rail) and the coordinates for the bridges? Thanks. --Polaron | Talk 16:43, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. The USGS Topographic Maps at http://www.topozone.com/ are your best resource. You can get a bridge name for well known bridges and the railway company, although sometimes you have to scroll along the line to find it. Also if you scale in to 1:24,000 and click dead center of the bridge you can read the DMS (have to change the display from UTM). Zooming on topozone is a bit awkward, fortunately you can use your browser's Back function to zoom out again. I usually have http://www.mapquest.com/ running on a different tab to check on street names and occasionally a route number as the former are notoriously lacking on topos. I like to run terraserver displaying ariel photos as well to scan for bridges and ruins. For some of CT River, I suspect you could find detailed imagery on maps.google.com, a luxury I didn't have for most of the Susquehanna. The toughest part is formal bridge names. Putting in the major local street name that crosses it is a good guess, leave it blank if you have a route number and would only be guessing. If you're really gung-ho, google for the town and the word bridge and see what pops up. Entering the coordinate data is the most tedious. Usually I'd cut and paste from an adjacent row, then edit in the minutes and seconds changes from the topo. Because it's tedious it's also error prone. I've had to correct some of mine and others work. Best to go through and check them later. One minor annoyance it that the terraserver ariel photos don't center on the coordinates when you go to check them. You can access all these map sources by clicking on a coordinate in my list. When you start working on yours, just click on the last one you did to resume at a later time. Good luck and good editing.--J Clear 16:59, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the info. Regards --Polaron | Talk 17:35, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wiki fixation?

Is it a bad sign if you edit the Wiki during a layover in PHX using their free wireless?--J Clear 20:55, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Maybe you should take the Are You a Wikipediholic Test to see how you compare to other Wikipedians. I got 489.0475. Blarneytherinosaur 10:23, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Maybe I have a new set of criteria to add. Paying $10/hr and skipping a trip the the rest room between flights to edit surely has to score high.--J Clear 12:07, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

If you want that criterion added, you could leave a message at Wikipedia talk:Are You a Wikipediholic Test. Blarneytherinosaur 01:28, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bexley Hall (disambiguation)

I've added the "{{prod}}" template to the article Bexley Hall (disambiguation), suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:Notability). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree, discuss the issues raised at Talk:Bexley Hall (disambiguation). If you remove the {{dated prod}} template, the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 18:50, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I responded to your move question on my Talk page. Please follow up there or at Talk:Bexley Hall if you need to. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 21:45, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Runner II, SS-476

My father was on the Runner II, SS-476. I posted a photo on the article page but I think he has some better pictures. I'll see if I can scan them. But I can't seem to find a list of crew members during WWII. Any idea why that might be such a challenge?Slothrop2

I don't think the crew rosters are widely available, like the ship's histories are. Your best bet is to find either an alumni association for that boat, or start posting questions on the various general submariner websites, of which there are plenty.--J Clear 01:00, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bexley Hall

Apparently you were requested to move Bexley Hall (Seminary) to Bexley Hall creating a primary topic page. I don't think anyone agreed or even maintains there is a clear dominance among the items on Bexley Hall (disambiguation). "Where there is no such clearly dominant usage there is no primary topic page" -WP:D. So shouldn't Bexley Hall (disambiguation) have been moved to Bexley Hall? --J Clear 22:07, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Bexley Hall (Seminary) was the only entry on Bexley Hall (disambiguation) that was called "Bexley Hall" and was an actual article. The first entry is a deep link to a section of a different article. The third entry is called "Hall Place" and there is no mention in that article to say it's ever been called "Bexley Hall". That's a no-brainer to me. —Wknight94 (talk) 01:46, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Homeports

Copied to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ships#Homeport, discuss there. --J Clear 11:29, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] redirects

Hi J Clear, Regarding your request at USS Lavaca (APA 180), generally speaking, if a redirect isn't hurting anything and is reasonable, it sticks around. I can certainly imagine someone trying to remember the name of the article and typing it into the article without a hyphen. This is besides the purely selfish motive that for every redirect that is left as is, I'm ten seconds up on getting to the rest of CAT:CSD. Thanks, BanyanTree 02:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Did you perchance look at the entire edit history on the redirect? I just got done creating a new article when I noticed the included {{Haskell class attack transport}} still had red for the article in question. I found that List of Allied ships at the Japanese surrender, which I've been creating missing articles from, had a typo (the missing "-"), now fixed. I would have done a redirectless move w/o creating the redirect at all. So I requested the speedy to clean up what I see as a useless redirect. Are you saying that every USN ship article in wikipedia ought to have this redirect, in case someone who even knows about USN hull numbers doesn't know that they have a hypen? The scary thing is that the original typo may go back to a 1946 USN document. --J Clear 02:37, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, of course I looked at the history while evaluating the request. Don't put up straw men - I said if a redirect is harmless, there's no point in grinding it through the wheels of wikipedia process. I believe that we have just about reached the limit of productive discussion on this matter and will be removing your page from my watchlist. Best, BanyanTree 03:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about the straw man comment. That was uncalled for. It's been an odd stint at CAT:CSD and I think I better stop for the night. - BanyanTree 03:08, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the formatting expertise on I class destroyers. Next step is to see whether I can extend the class infobox to ships of the class. Folks at 137 22:53, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Hardly "expertise". I just fooled around with what little I did know in preview until I "got lucky". Good way to learn.--J Clear 23:59, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Washington Memorial Chapel & Valley Forge

Thanks for the compliment. I like the expansion of the vfnhp page. I moved your work to the chapel page. Do you have a citation for the paragraph? --evrik 02:58, 31 October 2006 (UTC) I forgot to say, I don't know about the trail ... How's this, "The chapel and its attached carillon are not technically not part of the park, but serve the spiritual needs of the park and the community that surround it." Do you know much about the train station? --evrik 03:11, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

• I'm going to follow up on Talk:Valley Forge National Historical Park. --J Clear 03:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Have you seen this article, "A new view of Valley Forge"? It has a lot of good information for the Valley Forge National Historical Park article. --evrik ^(talk) 14:15, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] USS Bellatrix (AKA-3)

I'll be glad to update this article to include the current DANFS material, but I want to be sure we aren't both working on the same thing. What say you? Lou Sander 12:39, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

It's all yours. It's just on my watch list (I think I added a category), so I thought I would comment. --J Clear 00:46, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Philly meetup

Hi! There will be a Wikipedia Meetup in Philadelphia on 4 November. If you're interested in coming, RSVP by editing Wikipedia:Meetup/Philadelphia 2 to reflect the likelihood of your being able to attend. If you have any questions, feel free to ask CComMack's talk page. Hopefully, we'll all see you (and each other) on the 4th! --evrik 16:28, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Philadelphia Meetup 3

FYI ... Wikipedia:Meetup/Philadelphia 3 --evrik ^(talk) 00:17, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stackable ship infobox?

Hello! I'm just writing to ask you about the stackable ship infobox that you mentioned here. I think we could do some awesome stuff with it, and I wanted to ask you if you were still interested in finishing it up. If you're running into problems with it, maybe we can work on them together, though I don't have much template experience and my experiments with the infobox sort of failed. TomTheHand 15:43, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Announcement

Announcement The "Help name my baby" Poll has closed :). Greta Annette was born 12/12/06. She weighs 6lbs 14oz and is 19inches long. Mother and baby are both doing fine. Thanks for all the suggestions! To keep this slightly Wikipedia related I have started Adopt a State, so adopt your state article today! -Ravedave (help name my baby) 03:42, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] manic depression

Instead of making articles like you did for Manic Depression (song) all you need to do is make a disambiguation page.--Tainter 01:16, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I'll get to that eventually, maybe, unless I forget. Of course then one has to decide if Manic Depression (song) is notable enough to break the redirect to Bipolar disorder, or if we go with the ever popular MD redirect here, for other uses....--J Clear 01:23, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AWB and cats

My goal was to add a category. At the same time, I have AWB set to automatically make some other changes that are offered by AWB. I understand AWB offers these changes because the authors of AWB think they are are 'good thing'. Any questions on AWB should be directed to the the WP AWB authors/maintainers. Thanks. Hmains 18:57, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] USS St. Mary's (APA-126)

I added back this image to the Haskell-class article while still retaining the USS Haskell image; hope this will suffice. Mdhennessey 19:06, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Finals vs. wikipedia

Believe me, if I could work my will my finals would be so simple to pass that an hour or less of study would earn me an A+. Thanks for the kind words though, its nice to know that people care :-) TomStar81 (Talk) 06:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Animated Turret

Depending on the gun turret in question, there are both fixed and rotating hoists. In the example in question here, the BL 15 inch Mark I, the lower hoist does rotate with the turret. The shell hoist is mounted on a rotating ring so that the shell can be passed into the hoist from a range of angles. The charges are man-handled from the handing room into the hoist. These details aren't illustrated for clarity's sake. Emoscopes ^Talk 19:15, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Philadelphia Invite

[edit] Re: SHIPS tagging

I'd be glad to do it. I requested approval to start the new task. Once it's approved I'll start -- pb30<talk> 01:04, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Do you know of a handful specific categories or templates that are used on articles within your scope? Some examples would help me figure out exactly whats covered by the project. Thanks -- pb30<talk> 17:19, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gaff

I really do not understand you. Wiki is supposed to be as a generic purpose information source, by simply saying GAFF is a General Amber Force Field you are not giving information enought to Amber users, they can click to the AMBER on wiki you left but maybe is also usefull give them the chance of visiting the antechamber page and of course name to the authors. Thats why I have added what GAFF is at the beginning, cause it wasn´t there, you only have modified what I have add at the beginning. I´m an AMBER user and believe me, mention antechamber and the autors is good, first of all I do not know how to add information to wiki and thats why It looks so bad, you want it on that way, OK, do it ..... I´m not a proffesional in wiki, just I do what I think is usefull

[edit] Wikimedia Pennsylvania

Hello there!

I'm writing to inform you that we are now forming the first local Wikimedia Chapter in the United States: Wikimedia Pennsylvania. Our goals are to perform outreach and fundraising activities on behalf of the various Wikimedia projects. If you're interested in being a part of the chapter, or just want to know more, you can:

• Contact us on IRC at #wikimedia-pa
• Join our mailing list
• Visit our blog at http://wmfpa.blogspot.com

Thanks and I hope you join up! Cbrown1023 talk 03:27, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You

If you think thats bad, you should see my real handwriting. Half the time even I can't read what I wrote. On a related note, you are now a proud recipiant of...

		The TomStar81 Spelling Award
		Be it known to all members of Wikipedia that J Clear has corrected my god-awful spelling on the page USS New Jersey (BB-62), and in doing so has made an important and very significant contribution to the Wikipedia community, thereby earning this TomStar81 Spelling Award and my deepest thanks. Keep up the good work! TomStar81 (Talk) 01:38, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Museum ships

Hi. Please see my edit summary. Cheers. Ingolfson 13:50, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Point accepted. Are you optomistic that a good number can be found, or should we go ahead a delete the statement now? --J Clear 17:05, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

As a 'moving target' (and an international one as well) I think we will be hard-pressed. We could list the number given in the 'museum fleet' of the association I recently linked as references to. Obviously this would have to be a qualified statement. I.e. "there are over X museum ships organised in..." Ingolfson 10:05, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hilliers cave and geology assessment

Hi, I noticed you added a Wikipedia:WikiProject Geology/Assessment to Hillier's Cave which is on my watch list. Should this be added to all the other Caves of the Mendip Hills & possibly to Mendip Hills (which is a FA)?— Rod ^talk 13:55, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

OK, you had me confused for a second. I just added the project banner w/o setting any associated assessment flags. And I heartily endorse adding appropriate project banners to discussion pages as it helps members of the project find potentially orphaned articles. If the article is already rated FA, then setting the class flag in a new project banner is generally appropriate. If the article is an obvious stub or start, then setting that class is usually OK. If the "importance" flag is used, I would not copy that over from another project as importance criteria is usually very project specific. --J Clear 14:04, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My Editor Review

Hello, J Clear, I just wanted to thank you for the comments you left at my editor review. I greatly appreciate the advice, especially since I wasn't aware of the correct placement of stub templates; I've always been a bit confused concerning that, and usually ended up grouping them with other templates (hence why I moved the stub template up to my newly created Toni Morrison template). I'll be sure to keep them in their proper place from now on, however. :) Take care, María (críticame) 14:41, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thanks for the heads-up at WP:SHIPS! --Kralizec! (talk) 17:14, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Thank you for your support in my unsuccessful RfA. I appreciate the trust you and the WP community have in me; however, this time around things just didn't work out. TomStar81 (Talk) 21:43, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks again

		The TomStar81 Spelling Award
		Be it known to all members of Wikipedia that J Clear has corrected my god-awful spelling on the page User:TomStar81, and in doing so has made an important and very significant contribution to the Wikipedia community, thereby earning this TomStar81 Spelling Award and my deepest thanks. Keep up the good work! TomStar81 (Talk) 20:36, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Given your recent RfA experience I feel bad about picking on your spelling ... well OK, maybe not. ;-) Glad you're back. --J Clear 02:30, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Navsource reorganized

Here's a start to the list User:Pb30/sandbox2 -- pb30<talk> 20:35, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you for adjusting (?) my request for Editor Review. I was rather confused about filling the form, not having done that before. I hope it is ok now, so that I may get some comments on myself. Cuddlyable3 21:18, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request for review

Could use another informal article review please, if you don't mind: USS Koka (AT-31). Didn't intend to write any ship articles until I get around to reading all the WP:SHIPS guidelines, but my massive shipwreck categorization effort is, well, massively stultifying too - and I've read so very many ship articles in the process that I figured I could probably wing it as far as ship article conventions go. Appreciate any feedback you have. Maralia 02:09, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Done. --J Clear 01:28, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ISO Admonishment

Methinks Template talk:USS could use a dose of ye olde fashioned Template talk:HMS-style admonishment about keeping the templates in synch. {{hinta, hinta}} --Kralizec! (talk) 01:50, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Philly meetup #5

Please look at Wikipedia:Meetup/Philadelphia 5 and give your input about the next meet-up. Thank you.
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[edit] another answer

FYI on your question // FrankB 20:30, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Meetup/Philadelphia 5

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[edit] Thanks for the Ace Reid pointers

Yes, I have the Lanier book. I also have Dad's "little black book" that notes sailing days and destinations. I'll have to dig it out and compare his dates to the ones you have on the Lanier page...when I get time. Thanks again. Stan Reid (talk) 19:03, 5 December 2007 (UTC)Stan

[edit] Wikipedia:Meetup/Philadelphia 6

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[edit] You're invited!

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[edit] Planning for the 7th Wikipedia Meetup

The planning for the summer Philadelphia meetup has begun. We would appreciate your input.
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