Image talk:J Bakhita.jpg

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  • Quoting User:Veledan "... it seems the image was first published in 1931, not with the memoires of 1910... not found out where yet, only that the 8th edition was printed with additional material in 2000 in Strasbourg. Alex has visited the religious house where she lived, but the sisters, despite being very willing to help, don't know whether or not they own the copyright, or who might. I've removed the picture for now while I write to the mother house of the Order to see if they can shed any light, or provide a picture where they do know they own the copyright. Thanks again for your help. ~ Veledan • | T | 23:01, 14 August 2007 (UTC)"
  • Quoting User:Veledan's new information as of 6 September 2007: "I think that's a new painting commissioned by the Holy See for her canonization in 2000. As such, the PD templates are not right."
  • Veledan left this information on my talk page:

Hi Kenosis, this is with ref to the new image you've posted at Josephine Bakhita. I was really glad to see another image in place since I had to delete the original I uploaded, but I'm afraid I'm pretty sure we can't use the one you've provided: I think that's a new painting commissioned by the Holy See for her canonization in 2000. As such, the PD templates are not right. Unfortunately I don't think the 1931 image I had deleted would be legal under those templates either: the 1931 publication was definitely attributed, not anonymous :-( We might be able to use the original under the "US not renewed" template, what do you think? ~ Veledan • T 18:23, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Excellent information, and thank you for lettimg me know. I'll go attend to it right now. If it's a 1931 image with an author attribution published in a European Union nation, the copyright must also be respected in the United States, in keeping with the Berne Convention and the URAA. That standard is 95 years after the death of the author, and even under a more liberal interpretation of the relevant laws, it's 70 years after the death of the author. Either way it's copyrighted in the US if your informatioin is correct. ... Kenosis 18:27, 6 September 2007 (UTC)