Talk:J. P. Patches
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[edit] Images
I changed the image on the front page to one that seemed more fitting. Still, I like the original one and will preserve it here until someone comes up with a mor fun way to display it. --24.17.217.219 16:56, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Daryl Laub, and the timing of things
Googling around, I found some references saying that Daryl Laub created the J.P. Patches character and/or possibly played him for a few years before Chris Wedes did, possibly at WTCN-TV in the Twin Cities (today KARE). None of the dates and locations seem to mesh properly, though. It's somewhat unclear if both of the men worked in Minnesota as well as in Washington—Laub may have theoretically bounced from WTCN to KIRO and then back to MN to work at KSTP-TV in the space of a few years. Just a factoid to check on. —User:Mulad (talk) 07:17, Dec 30, 2004 (UTC)
- Alright, I found a decent page with info on this: http://www.tvparty.com/losttwin.html A few bits from this stuff is incorporated in the article now. —User:Mulad (talk) 00:52, Jan 21, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] I remember...
Watching JP Patches for years as a adolescent/pre-teen/teen. One was never too old to watch Julius Pierpont Patches. :) Such fond and wonderful memories! [-- 63.163.28.170 17:57, Nov 30, 2005 (UTC)]
[edit] Style
Summary: + txt, cit, so cl, rephrased; see Talk.
Explication: See Talk:Seattle, Citing sources.
To reduce so much red in the article, non-existent internal links moved here to Talk. They can be moved back to the article as the pages are created:
Sturdley the Bookworm, Esmerelda, Ketchikan the Animal Man, Boris S. Wort, Ggoorrsstt the Friendly Frpl, Gertrude.
Bob Newman
"Patches Pals", "ICU2TV"
Lunch with Casey
Better, add sub-headings to this article : ) as long as the article isn't too big.
A References section, which contains only citations, helps readers to see at a glance the quality of the references used. (WP: Citing sources # "References" section in addition to "Notes")
See Talk:Seattle, Citing sources.
"External Links" -> "Further reading", per MoS. Further reading/external links.
"Retrieved [date]", since on-line reference links can break, (per Embedded links).
--GoDot 01:03, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Accuracy
+ from http://www.olyblog.net/evergroove37 (is there a more formal source, verifiable author and story?), per What sources to cite
Do any previous contributors have sources? --Re. Matt Groening?{{Citation needed}} Why. (Not internal : )
(Krusty the Clown seems rather too cynical and jaded for J. P. to've been anything but an antithesis. By today's (Krusty's) standards, J.P.'s girlfriend was a clown butch drag queen : )
Matt Groening states time and again in the DVD commentaries for The Simpsons that Krusty is largleybased on Rusty Nails (Portland's equivalent to JP). However, it should be obvious to the careful observer that many JP references have found their way onto The Simpsons. One example is on an episode featuring Bart's birthday. Bart eagerly awaits to see his name scroll by on the Krusty show. One of those names is none other than JP Patches (you have to watch it one frame at a time to catch it).Bgrin 14:08, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
'Put 'em in, or here in Talk, someone will format if you d'ruther not.
"Mayor of the City Dump" link should be renamed Union Bay Natural Area, where the real City Dump was actually located, 1926-1966.
I totally disagree about the city dump link. It is true that the Former dump was located at the current Union Bay Natural area, but let us not forget: J.P. was a Clown on a TV show. He was the mayor of the dump only in his fictional world - not the mayor of the actual dump. He was still the mayor of the dump after the Union Bay site was closed, after all... I'll give this a while to percolate, but then I'm going to edit this sillyness.Hrmph! 23:49, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
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- With accuracy a Wikipedia goal, the purported fiction of J. P. is by this article put to rest.
--GoDot 01:03, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
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- As a watcher of the program, I don't believe the "City Dump" was intended to represent any particular dump, but "the" city dump. I thought it was the dump in my town & am sure this view was shared by children in every town. rewinn 02:20, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
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- "The city dump was (conceptually if not in reality) the Montlake Landfill (since 1972 athletic fields, car park, and the Union Bay Natural Area of the University of Washington in the University District)." Huh? This seems to be totally superfluous and has nothing to do with the program I remember.Gr8white
[edit] Copyedit
The main article had accumulated research notes that don't really fit in the main article; the TOC was half-way down the page, and the various Patches pals were scattered. I hope to have copyeditted this into a crisp condition. Here are the research notes :
Research: Character name search of the Internet Movie Database
"The character 'j. p. patches' (using whole word searching) has been played by: Nobody found with character name 'j. p. patches'".[1]
Wonderful before school children's T.V. with cartoons, end time: 8:30 A.M. JP made appearances at regional schools and events.
[edit] Krusty and JP
You know, I don't mean to quibble, but someone added a citation to the article which supposely states that Krusty is based on JP, yet there is absolutley nothing in that article that references JP, Chirs Wedes or even Seattle. http://www.silverbox.com/krusty/debate1.html
In fact, there are perhaps a dozen theories in this article--some of them pretty wild--and yet no hint of JP anywhere. So, I ask, where is the grand proof in this citation that it was even rumored that Krusty is based even in part on JP?
I suggest this citation be removed for the balderdash that it so obviously is.
The one officially acknowleged JP reference in the Simpsons is in the episode Radio Bart where Bart watches his name (and JP's) name go by on the TV screen on his birthday.````
