Talk:Jörg Schilling

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As the article stands, there is a "citation needed" tag at the end of the sentence asserting that CDRtools is the backend for most free CD burning software. That statement is found in the article on CDRtools. What is the appropriate way to cite to another Wikipedia article?

You can't (shouldn't) cite Wikipedia in Wikipedia. It's not really a reliable source, considering that if the information in the other article isn't cited, then some random Wikipedia shlub wrote the statement, making it not good enough to be a reference. You need to either find an outside source for this statement or reword/delete it (in both articles). If the other article cites it, then just use that citation/reference. 63.24.59.163 22:02, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "known" and "frequent" critic

Since its inception, the article has claimed that Schilling is "known" for his "frequent" criticism of the Linux kernel. The only citation that proports to back this up is a link to a single mailing list post by Schilling in which he says, in passing, he doesn't like one part of the Linux Kernel. There's no evidence there whatever of his being a "frequent" critic of it. Furthermore saying he's "known" to be something means we have to show evidence that a nontrivial group of people "know" him in that capacity. We can say Seymore Hersh is "known" to be a critic of George Bush because we can find multiple independent third-party reliable sources who say that. Simply citing one (or frankly any number) of critical posts doesn't prove any such thing. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 16:28, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

There should definitely be something on Schilling's somewhat controversial stance on various topics. Of course, to add it to the article, it needs to be supported by citations. Can we cite the output of his software? See e.g. [1]. Other topics that come to mind are GNU make and autotools, see eg. [2]. By more careful search of mailing list archives, I'm sure one could support also a claim of Schilling having a tendency to incite flame wars, be it intentionally or not. 84.190.188.86 —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 08:42, August 26, 2007 (UTC).

The comment "Re: How does it compare to tar?" on the freshmeat page on star [3] is also quite telling. 84.190.188.86 08:55, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

That's not a criticism at all about the Linux kernel though. It's talking about GNU tar. He does criticize the Linux kernel in that page, though, where he calls O_DIRECT proprietary, which is an interesting choice of words. –69.207.171.114 (talk) 02:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Also, I should add, that he criticizes LSB, but again, that's not a criticism of the Linux kernel. –69.207.171.114 (talk) 02:32, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Example of why it's well known: http://mako.cc/copyrighteous/images/trophy.png, http://lwn.net/Articles/97469/, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cdrkit#Fork

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ernstp (talk • contribs) 10:17, 7 May 2008 (UTC)