Talk:Jöran Persson
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Should the article at any point mention that an asteroid is named after him? [1] I don't know if this is customary...only noticed it because I checked "what links here". Jwrosenzweig 03:04, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- The fact that an asteroid is named after him is recorded at Meanings of asteroid names (9001-9500). I did not include the fact within the article as it does not appear to be normal practice to do so, at least this is what a cursory browse throusgh the list suggests. I don't know why this is, although it might have something to do with the sheer number of asteroids. Rje 14:46, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- That makes perfect sense to me: I was merely shocked by the fact that anyone would have named an asteroid for the fellow. :) Jwrosenzweig 05:23, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Without source verifying the specification of naming the asteroid, it could be that it honors Göran Persson, swedish Premier in the late 1990's, and not the Persson from 17th century. The latter could be more palatable persona to honor. --131.207.161.152 10:31, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- The asteroid was discovered in 1980, only a few months afterr Göran Persson was elected to parliament for the first time. It is also general practice to wait a hundred years before naming an asteroid after a political or military figure (although there are exceptions to this). The link given above is from Uppsala University; as one of their scientists discovered the asteroid, I suppose they are as reliable as anyone on the matter. Rje 12:30, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Okay, that's reliable enough. Of course, it could have taken a while for the asteroid to be named after being discovered, right? --131.207.161.152 12:43, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
- It's possible...I'd note also, though, that Uppsala is in the general area from which Persson came, and it is also in the general area which he was lord of (however briefly). I don't see that there's any reason to think him an unlikely choice for an Uppsala astronomer who's naming several asteroids every year in honor of notable Swedes. Point's a little moot anyway, as it's not mentioned in the article, right? :) Jwrosenzweig 02:54, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
- Okay, that's reliable enough. Of course, it could have taken a while for the asteroid to be named after being discovered, right? --131.207.161.152 12:43, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
- The asteroid was discovered in 1980, only a few months afterr Göran Persson was elected to parliament for the first time. It is also general practice to wait a hundred years before naming an asteroid after a political or military figure (although there are exceptions to this). The link given above is from Uppsala University; as one of their scientists discovered the asteroid, I suppose they are as reliable as anyone on the matter. Rje 12:30, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Without source verifying the specification of naming the asteroid, it could be that it honors Göran Persson, swedish Premier in the late 1990's, and not the Persson from 17th century. The latter could be more palatable persona to honor. --131.207.161.152 10:31, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- That makes perfect sense to me: I was merely shocked by the fact that anyone would have named an asteroid for the fellow. :) Jwrosenzweig 05:23, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Rome?
Just noticed someone has changed the link to Rome so that it points to the Holy Roman Empire. I had assumed from context that the estates in Vastergotland that Persson was investigating were loyal to the Catholic Church (often referred to semi-casually as "Rome"), not to the HRE. Should that link point to the HRE, the Catholic Church, or to Rome? Just curious, Jwrosenzweig 06:50, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- I was referring to the Catholic Church, although I should have made myself more clear. I changed the link to "Holy See", as the crux of the problem was that the people were still sending money to Rome rather than their religious beliefs. Although I would imagine that having a fairly large bloc of Catholics would have annoyed Gustav I twenty years after he led a Protestant Reformation in Sweden. Rje 12:30, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Johan III
Erik XIV's brother's name is not John, it's Johan. ToVinge 20:46, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
- In Swedish his name is Johan, but in English it is translated as John. This is a very common practice with the names of foreign monarchs. Rje 21:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
