Talk:Jämthund
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Is "Jamthundt" correct? I've only seen this breed called a "Jamthund" (or more accurately "Jämthund"). The FCI use "Jämthund", Google gives no hits for ""Jamthundt", the only listing in my books is also for "Jämthund". Any objections to me changing the spelling here? -- sannse 15:30, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC)
- In the local dialect, SwedishJämt is Jamt, so Jamthund would be as correct as Jämthund, at least in an anglophonic context where the letter ä doesn't exist. Jens Persson (213.67.64.22 19:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC))
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- I'm pretty sure that the question was regarding the use of the letter t as the last letter in the word, jämthundt, since someone had spelled the word like that when the question was raised and not about the use of the letter a instead of ä. 80.216.103.37 22:42, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- And to answer that question, it's never spelled with a t at the end in Swedish, the correct spelling is Jämthund. -- Barnflickan 18:51, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure that the question was regarding the use of the letter t as the last letter in the word, jämthundt, since someone had spelled the word like that when the question was raised and not about the use of the letter a instead of ä. 80.216.103.37 22:42, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Why don't you just give up on the PNG image and use JPEG. I even uploaded a converted one for you in case you don't know how (it's pretty easy to do with Irfanview):
[edit] SWEDISH Elkhound!?
The Jämthund must be a JAMTISH/JAMTLANDIC Elkhound rather than a SWEDISH Elkhound. Remember that Jämtland has been a part of Sweden for only slightly more than 300 years. Prior to that it was a part of Norway, so one should use the name of the province rather than the country which the province happens to belong to since some time. The dog is way much older than 300 years, so why should swedes have any credit for its existence? Jens Persson (213.67.64.22 19:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC))
- Thing you ought to consider though is that before Jämtland was conquered by Sweden it still was only Norwegian on paper, in reality it was fairly autonomous, and due to it's geographic location cultural ties with both Norway and Sweden have always been strong. The breed of dog however, despite being called Jämthund, wasn't really exclusive to Jämtland, but rather to the general area around Jämtland, so to be more correct it isn't only a Jämtlandic breed but a breed native to the central scandinavian peninsula, and credit should go to Swedes, Norwegians, and Jämtlandians alike, but I agree with you that calling it a Swedish Elkhound does place an unduely amount of credit on Swedes, which is why I always call it Jämthund. -- Barnflickan 18:48, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- In this sense Swedish is a political adjective, just like e.g. Gutnish is a Swedish dialect. The name, however imprecise, seems to be well established so it should definately be mentioned. Though a clarification under a name-section is of course not harmful. //Heimvennar - divider 18:48, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Well...
Well, that's what some dog books I've read say. Sorry, I don't have them at hand to cite source from. Michael (talk) 15:58, 13 March 2008 (UTC)