Talk:Jägerbomb

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[edit] Origin

The biggest problem facing the Jägerbomb article revolves around its origins. The claim made by Razzoo's is dubious at best and fraudulent advertising material at worst.

Anyone with any supportable claims as to its origins in various countries - please contribute.

We could also make a 'claims of origins' section, where the possible origins of the drink are discussed. This, however, is somewhat inconsistent with Wikipedia guidelines, but I've seen it in plenty of other articles. Lots of areas of etymology of various terms have, rather than one claim, several claims and none are suggested as being the true etymology. Ostensibly, this approach could be applied to the origins of the Jägerbomb.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by ScottMacGregor1985 (talk • contribs) 07:44, 3 July 2007

Applying logic to the situation, we could say that because there is little evidence suggesting where the first jägerbomb was created or even by whom, we must consider the possibility that the cocktail may have been invented by several different people or groups at different times at disparate places, without any collaboration with each other.

It is fair to say that the jägerbomb became popular between late 2005 and early 2006, and Jägermeister had long been a popular shot served without an energy drink accompaniment. It is then fair to conclude that with the growing sales of energy drinks in nightclubs worldwide and the enduring popularity of Jägermeister, the jägerbomb was an organic creation for which credit cannot be assigned to any one creator.

However, this logical approach is considered to be original research, and in the time since I (Scott MacGregor) submitted the above two paragraphs (almost verbatim) they have been removed by other users on the basis thereof.

first of all, sorry for my bad english. i have no supportable sources for this, but in my opinion, the jägerbomb (or flying hirsch as it is called here) was invented in austrian skiing resorts. other people say it was invented in Liechtenstein during carneval. youth in liechtenstein dresses up as flying deers (hirsch means deer) during carnvel since the early nineties. i think i've seen an article in a newspaper telling the story of the flying hirsch, i'll try to find it again —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.173.231.214 (talk) 21:44, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jäger-Bull

It is referred to as a "Jäger-Bull" in German speaking countries, as well as in English Bar chain Wetherspoon's. In Austria it is called "Flying Hirsch", where Hirsch means deer in German and is inspired by the Jägermeister logo.

I´m from germany and i´ve never heard someone ordering a jäger-bull, maybe it´s Bavarian, as far as i know it´s called "Flying Hirsch", but i have never seen somebody ordering something that disgusting.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.136.247.169 (talk • contribs) 00:08, 2 August 2007.

[edit] Inner circle, expansion

The last paragraph under 'commercial preparation' about the jagerbomb cup needs to be expanded. I have no Idea what is ment by an 'inner circle', and what sort of 'cup' is used?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.176.188.245 (talk • contribs) 04:52, 20 August 2007.


[edit] No Original Research

This article has much info that is not backed up by references. Please add references for each section. Cshay 18:09, 24 August 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Picture

Hahaha try taking a picture at a a SMALLER resolution next time -128.205.161.88 20:15, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Haha yeah it's a bit crap isn't it. Well I've updated my phone since I first made the article and it's got a 3 megapixel camera in it now. I'm going to Billboard tonight and that would be a great excuse to consume my favourite bevarage!ScottMacGregor1985 10:06, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok Just did it, except I forgot about the whole uploading a picture process, so theres 4 or 5 edits of me stuffing it up. sorry guys i should have tested doing it in sandbox mode, but it eventually worked. I hope everyone likes the picture.ScottMacGregor1985 10:06, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My New Haircut video

This video is probably the worst thing to happen to the jägerbomb article. It's invited so much vandalism, but I think it would be a mistake to ignore it. I think it's more than enough to have that point in the pop culture section how they are the protagonist's favourite drink etc, but anything more than that is just unnecessary. Also, a synonym is a word that can be used in place of another word; thus "fucking skank" is not synonym for "jägerbomb". If you went up to a bar and ordered a "fucking skank", I doubt your bartender would pour you a jägerbomb.ScottMacGregor1985 06:08, 6 November 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Controversy

I think nutritionists would also argue that the combination of alcohol and caffeine has a greater effect on the liver than the two taken separately, so Jagerbombs would lead to increased risk of cancer and other diseases. Can anyone find a citation for this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.36.100.85 (talk) 19:39, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Or how about the fact that it makes something delicious, Jagermeister, taste like shit. --E tac (talk) 10:16, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Poorly sourced statement

I've removed this:

However, nutritionists take a grimmer view of the alcohol-caffeine combination. They point to the fact that both caffeine and alcohol are diuretics which dehydrate the body. Therefore, excessive consumption of an alcohol-caffeine combination can lead to greater hangovers and possible death due to severe dehydration.

The cited source was "Energy Drinks & Alcohol"; Nutrition, U. Mass. Dining Services (Caffeine); [1].

I've confirmed that the page supports what was in the article (via an archive.org posting; there seems to be some sort of database error on the original page). But a website of the Dining Services department of a university is not a reliable source, particularly given that the university is no doubt trying to discourage reckless drinking. (I've worked at the University of California at Berkeley; I'm familiar with Dining Services departments.)

I have no objection to the information being reposted if a better source can be found, but I'm doubtful, since it's a myth that caffeinated drinks cause dehydration. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 20:20, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

No its not a myth, caffeine is caffeine is known to be a diuretic.--E tac (talk) 22:51, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Health Effects

No discussion of the potentially negative cardiac effects of mixing stimulants and depressants? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.63.229.128 (talk) 06:59, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] What a load of old tosh!!

This artilce is rubbish, and could do with being deleted!  Doktor  Wilhelm  23:52, 19 March 2008 (UTC)