Talk:Iwan Roberts

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Contents 1 Taking this article to WP:FA status 2 Sources 3 Chart 4 Structure 5 International career 6 more articles 7 Sources?

[edit] Taking this article to WP:FA status

Hello. User:The Rambling Man and I are about to start pushing this article to Featured Article status. We've had a fair bit of luck in doing this in the past with other football and cricket articles. Assistance gratefully received. And apologies to any editors who feel slighted by wholesale changes to work they've done previously. No offence intended. Apologies too for the "building site" feel that's about to hit the article. Hopefully, it'll be shiny pretty soon. --Dweller 16:19, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah! The Rambling Man 17:54, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

Just a section to add some sources what I find when I'm surfin'... The Rambling Man 13:26, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

• Welsh schoolboy international reference
• Cambridge United, detailed profile —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Rambling Man (talk • contribs) 13:57, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
• Welsh appearances, 2000 onwards The Rambling Man 15:49, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chart

Anyone like the idea of a bar chart showing his goals each season, with maybe a line chart superimposed showing goals per game (if the data's available)? --Dweller 23:18, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I'll happily knock one up as soon as we get all the missing data. The Rambling Man 13:27, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Structure

I took the current structure from Gilberto Silva, which is the only recent football biog FA. I think that the "senior career" aspect is too restrictive for a journeyman player who plied his trade for many clubs and suggest we move to a club-based batch of sections. Anyone disagree? --Dweller 15:01, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I think the Milner experience has taught us that going by club isn't frowned upon. Let's go for it. The Rambling Man 17:15, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] International career

I extracted (carefully, by hand) the following from RSSSF.com for Roberts' international career (date, home/away/neutral, oppo, score (wales 1st), club at the time, Welsh scorer(s)).

1. 11/10/89 (H) vs Netherlands (1-2) - Watford (Bowen)
2. 29/04/92 (A) vs Austria (1-1) - Huddersfield (Coleman)
3. 03/06/92 (N) vs Argentina (0-1) - Huddersfield n/a
4. 07/06/92 (N) vs Japan (1-0) - Huddersfield (Bowen)
5. 20/04/94 (H) vs Sweden (0-2) - Leicester n/a
6. 07/09/94 (H) vs Albania (2-0) - Leicester (Coleman, Giggs)
7. 12/10/94 (A) vs Moldova (2-3) - Leicester (Speed, Blake)
8. 29/03/00 (H) vs Finland (1-2) - Norwich (Giggs)
9. 23/05/00 (H) vs Brazil (0-3) - Norwich n/a
10. 02/06/00 (A) vs Portugal (0-3) - Norwich n/a
11. 02/09/00 (A) vs Belarus (1-2) - Norwich (Speed)
12. 07/10/00 (H) vs Norway (1-1) - Norwich (Blake)
13. 24/03/01 (A) vs Armenia (2-2) - Norwich (Hartson x2)
14. 01/09/01 (H) vs Armenia (0-0) - Norwich n/a
15. 06/10/01 (H) vs Belarus (1-0) - Norwich (Hartson) (92nd min sub)

15 apps, 0 goals. The Rambling Man 16:37, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Good work. As a glutton for punishment, I think we can nail this if we append to that list Welsh goalscorers from an RS. I'll start by nixing the "nil"s. --Dweller 16:46, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Gluttonisation over. Scorers added. No Roberts. The Rambling Man 17:21, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I think that's excellent work and is a definitive answer. We should probably include a footnote referring to the two conflicting sources and refer here for the detail. TRM, could you indicate the source for the scorers' name? --Dweller 21:07, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] more articles

• gutted he never scored for Wales + when he came closest
• publisher blurb for book, inc. some snippets of reviews
• The Independent, book review
• just check this out!

Might add more --Dweller 15:36, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sources?

Possibly not a reliable source but sporting-heroes.net have some stats on his early career. allfootballers.com may have better info. 86.21.74.40 (talk) 03:41, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Seems pretty third-party to me. Thanks! --Dweller (talk) 14:33, 20 December 2007 (UTC)