Talk:Italian diaspora

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Contents 1 Page creation 2 here 3 Table 4 What about Italians around the world? 5 Foreigners living in Italy

[edit] Page creation

I don't know much about this topic. I started this page in hopes that someone who does know about this topic will pick it up. I want to learn more about this because, obviously, I'm a result of the Italian diaspora. -- Andrew Parodi 14:37, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] here

It took a while, but I put something up. It is still shakey in parts, but I hope to keep working on it. It needs, for example, something or "return emigration". Anyway, hope this helps. Jeffmatt 05:49, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Table

Im afraid the table added is misleading and might be more appropriate elsewhere (Italian people??). Some countries, (Switzerland, France, Monaco, San Marino and Croatia) have a native Italian poulation- this is not part of a diaspora. To separate immigrants from native Italians in France and Switzerland would be a daunting task, one for which info may not exist. In addition, the table only gives a current "snapshot" (with some errors, I might add) and does not consider the historical fluctuations and forces that are (or should be) outlined in the article. For example, regarding Croatia there was more of an exodus than a diaspora. Apart from the large native population already there, Italians moved to places like Istria and Dalmatia when they were part of Italy (not Croatia). The population shown on the list indicates mostly native Italians that chose to stay- a small number compared to before 2nd world war. Mariokempes 18:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What about Italians around the world?

This article focuses more on the Italian Diaspora in the United States. There should be more written about the Italian Diaspora around the world. There are more people of Italian descent living in Brazil and Argentina compare to the United States, and there are millions of Italians living in Canada and Australia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lehoiberri (talk • contribs) 15:02, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Foreigners living in Italy

There it is a difference between Egyptian Italians and Italian Egyptians. The first are Foreigners in Italy, while the second are Italians in Egypt. The same happens with Maltese Italians, Nizzardo Italians, Corsican Italians, Tunisian Italians, Dalmatian Italians and Corfiot Italians: they all are ITALIANS (related to the irredentism) in other countries, but NOT foreigners in Italy (even if someone of them are a big community in Italy, like the Dalmatian Italians, after their exodus because of WWII). A Nizzardo Italian like Giuseppe Garibaldi cannot be considered a foreigner in Italy.......may be the confusion is related to the country name at the beginning (like Corfiot Italians, instead of Italians of Corfu), but everybody with a simple reading of the article will understand that they are Italians (or descendants of Italians) and not Greeks or Croats or French or Arabs.--Pannonicus (talk) 20:55, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. This article is about the diaspora. Recent changes, while perhaps well intended, have changed this article to something completely off track. I must say something, however: this focus on Italian irredentism is, at best, marginally worth mentioning and does not deserve such focus. Some writers (and I am convinced it's really only one -or at most two) are bent on creating some sort of revisionist, neo-expansionist dogma. Please!!! it is getting quite tiring! Mariokempes (talk) 23:59, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps it should be that the 'Nizzardo Italian' pages should as you have to say, be changed to something like 'Italian Nizzardo'? yes yes that would to be better, do you aggree? And what do you mean about

"There it is a difference between Egyptian Italians and Italian Egyptians. The first are Foreigners in Italy, while the second are Italians in Egypt"??

I never to have said that they were the same thing? so why you say that i have? Crystalclearchanges (talk) 19:00, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Italians Today section seems to me odd. What is this trying to say? Also look up diaspora it does not mean all the people that can be called Italian etnic group so the list on the bottom is not correct. Its not just foreigners and outside Italy like it says.

Agreed and removed. Mariokempes (talk) 19:37, 11 February 2008 (UTC)