Talk:Italian Line

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:23, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gross Tonnage ≠ Gross Register Tonnage

Good work on the new tables, they look extremely good. However, Gross Tonnage (GT) is not the same thing as Gross Register Tonnage (GRT, BRT, BRZ, depending on the language). The two units are measured using different formulas and there's no way of directly calculating one from the other - therefore each ship should specify which measurement has been used - I'd presume most are in GRT as GT wasn't taken into use until faily late in 20th century. -- Kjet (talk · contribs) 14:50, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback and pointing out that problem. Please note the following definitions:

GROSS TONNAGE: Term used for the entire enclosed space of a ship except for the double bottom, shafts and open superstructures; Unit of measurement based on the IMO measurement of the gross space contained in a ship. As measured by the IMO: The entire enclosed space of the ship multiplied by the specially devised factor "k." unit of measurement, which is a non-dimensional figure. In accordance with the Ship Tonnage Convention, from 18 July 1994 this replaced the previous unit of measurement (gross register ton).

GROSS REGISTER TONNAGE: Measurement for the space contained in ships according to Oslo measurement: 1rt = 2.8315 cbm = 100 cbt. Oslo measurement: The space contained between the tonnage deck and the upper surface of the double bottom. Unit of measurement: Gross register tonne - now obsolete (no longer used). Replaced by gross tonnage.

For the containerships the Gross tonnage applies, for the old passenger ships the Gross register tonnage. Thus have corrected this in the tables. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 57.66.144.181 (talk) 15:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of Captains

A note to user 84.222.141.31 who created the Incomplete list of Captains Higher Rank**, Captains *, and Deck Officers of "Italian Line" which was recently removed by Kjet: Removing content is not an easy decision, however I must agree with Kjet, that this list is off topic at an encyclopedic project. One could say that the people are the heart and seoul of a company and they are the key element how it appears to the public, often more than the material things, however then we would come to a point where we would have to publish whole staff lists of all years the company existed and this would make the page definetely burst and become quite confusing. However as I much respect the work on that list and would not say that this is something "nobody wants to know", I would suggest to the creator to do the following:

• search for a genealogical site where you could publish this, for example rootsweb or a more shipping focused site - do some research on the web and I am sure you will find space for free or at low cost for it
• after doing this you may add a "See also" reference here in this article linking to that page

Do not let you discourage and good luck!

PPOST (talk) 18:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)