Talk:Italian Hall disaster
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Since nothing links here, this entry will be lost. Why not make it a subsection at Calumet, Michigan, with a redirect from here? --Wetman 09:17, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)
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- Wetman should be pleased to find that links from this item to and from one of the best US Supreme Court Justices have been identified and inserted. Syd1435 04:40, 2004 Nov 25 (UTC)
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[edit] Famous judge said ....
A famous Supreme Court Justice said that Freedom of Speech does not extend to crying out "Fire!" in a crowded building.
Did this dictum get made before or after the 1913 massacre?
Which justice?
Syd1435 02:09, 2004 Nov 25 (UTC)
- The phrase "shouting fire in a crowded theater," or similar phrases, predate the Italian Hall disaster. In one example that I know of, on August 26, 1911, 28 people died in a stampede to get out of a Canonsburg, PA theater after someone mistakenly shouted "fire." This led to a national discussion on the subject at that time - well before the incident in Calumet. Plazak (talk) 12:33, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Which Justice?
203.12.97.47 04:20, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Oliver Wendall Holmes, Jr.
- The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man in falsely shouting fire in a theatre...
IIRC, in the film The Magnificent Yankee Holmes struggles to find an example that justifies the suppression of free speech (in time of war?) and the above phrase is what he and his close collegue comes up with.
Syd1435 04:33, 2004 Nov 25 (UTC)
[edit] Similar incidents on TV
In a spy movie, the hero, a western agent, is about to get caught in a theatre by the KGB. He shouts "fire" and in the pandemonium that results, is able to escape.
Syd1435 02:29, 2004 Dec 1 (UTC)
[edit] Death's Door
I've yet to read it. If any proper information from that book that could add more insight to this incident, to add to the article, it would be great if anyone could add to this. Peoplesunionpro 19:11, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Strike
From the article:
- "One of the longest and most disastrous strikes in the copper country took place in the C&H."
This is true, but it implies that the strike affected only C&H. The 1913 strike hit every mine in the Copper Country -- C&H just happened to be the biggest. I can't figure out an appropriate way to say this -- anyone have a suggestion? -- dcclark (talk) 15:09, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
