Talk:It (1990 film)

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Contents 1 Novel vs. Miniseries 2 Library 3 Remake? 4 Cast 5 IP Edits 6 It and it 7 Removal of a sentence from "Other Differences"

[edit] Novel vs. Miniseries

WAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY more needs to be added on differences. Especially on sexuality. I'm working on making it longer. 2Pac 13:19, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. In fact, I think several of the sections citing differences run way too long. For example, the discussion of the "Omitted Elements". This entire section should be deleted, or if nothing more condensed. To call them ommitted is, at least in part, an error anyway. They were not omitted, they were removed, and every element listed there was removed due to "standards and practices". This was originally produced by, funded by, and aired on ABC, the champions of overcensoring (i wonder if the "tar baby" omission had anything to do with Disney's Song of the South fisaco?) so I'm of the opinon anything that got cut out due to S&P really doesn't deserve mention. {{User:Smokachu|Smokachu|| 11:51, 4 April 2007

[edit] Library

In the movie, at the library where Mike worked since when the gang were kids, on the table at one part is a novel entitled "The Glowing." This is almost surely a reference to King's "The Shining." --Wilbur 01:16, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Well there's a character there, i forget his name (the author), King said he based himself on this guy.66.115.235.199 02:03, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

"The Glowing" is a fictional book written by "William Denborough", the lead character of IT. LuciferMorgan 12:05, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

I've added that tidbit of trivia. Mhacdebhandia 13:51, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Remake?

I clicked on both links to the so-called remake. It showed stephen's page' frame but the middle said there was nothing. The remake part should be removed. It's been 10 years.

It was reported last year on Fangoria it would happen, but talks broke down. I was the one who said this and I think it's important to the article that the reamke at least be mentioned. The film verision of THe Eyes Of The Dragon is mentioned on it's page, even thought it will never happen. --Unopeneddoor 00:19, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Could you tell me what issue of Fangoria you found the mention? Then I can add the source to the page, thanks Desdinova 17:34, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

This mini-series was a disappointment. I always thought some decent writers could turn it in to a full series. Wickyp 01:28, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cast

If I knew more about actors I would do this edit myself, but I try not to memorize actor names. This article needs a Cast section saying which actor is which person in the film. Also your staring section is missing Seth Green. I actually came here to see who he played in the movie. Just a suggestion though.

[edit] IP Edits

Recently I've had to babysit this page because numerous IP edits are removing valid information, along with vandalising the mainspace with questions about the movie. It's getting really annoying. I requested semi-protection so these IP edits will stop. I hope they protect the page, as if you look at the history, quite a few users (not just myself) have to constantly revert their changes. --sumnjim ^{talk with me·changes} 19:09, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Have you read the book and seen the miniseries, if you have then you would know that

• An adult Beverly helping an old woman clean up a mess of coffee which turned into blood and the Old lady turned out to be It and was talking like her late father.
• A young Bill looking at his late brother, Georgie's picture in a book. Georgie then winks and the pages start turning and blood is pouring out of the book.

did happen in the novel, but they were listed under "While many of Its attacks are represented accurately in the film, some never appear in Stephen King's novel at all, and are completely unique to the film. These include the following." So i took them out, but you warned me for taking them out.So I'm telling you now that you should take that out because if you don't then people who have seen one but not the other or none at all would get the wrong impression.

• Well, I have the book in my hands right now. 1st edition hard cover. I'd like to read a bit from where the part of the book you are explaining. Page 571. 2nd full paragraph. "She was dimly aware that it was not tea in her cup but shit, liquid shit, a little party-favor from the sewers under the city. She had drunk some of that, not much but a sip, oh God, oh God, oh blessed Jesus, please, please ---. So as I have reiterated in the 10+ times I've had to revert the page, the information listed on the article is correct, as it was blood in the mini-series, but shit in the novel. Now, will you please stop editing out the valid information on this article. Thank you. (oh and by the way, please sign your comments with 4 tilde's) --sumnjim ^{talk with me·changes} 05:36, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

So you are saying that the attack did happen, but you're gonna put it on there because of one little deatail that really doesn't matter anyway.

And what abou the part with Bill and the book? That happenned on the book and the movie, yet it's still on there. --User:Glm is sexy 02:54, Jun 24 2007 (UTC)

• Fine, remove the part about the book if you want --sumnjim ^{talk with me·changes} 00:19, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay. --User:Glm is sexy 10:28, Jun 24 2007 (UTC)

• I moved the controversial item to the "Other Differences" section, so it doesn't have the "are completely unique to the film" stigma attached to it. It did happen in both the novel and the mini-series, albeit the tea was feces in the novel, and blood in the mini-series. Since it was basically accurate, save for the contents of the tea, it was moved and rewritten. --sumnjim ^{talk with me·changes} 16:13, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Cool. --User:Glm is sexy 05:28, Jun 26 2007 (UTC)

[edit] It and it

I was going to go ahead and ignore the manual of style and convert all of the "It" references within the article to It. I think this is an good exception mainly because when the monobook default font renders the "I" in "It" it is easily confused with the lowercase "i" in "it." Please lemme know if you have any problems. --slakr^\ talk / 22:17, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of a sentence from "Other Differences"

I removed this sentence:

*Also in the film it is not shown that It was a female,It is pregnant and as adults It has eggs in It's lair which they destroy while Bill fights It.

The reason why I removed it is for a few reasons. First, it's poorly written (normally if something is poorly written, the obvious answer is to rewrite it, however with regards to my next points it was just a small part of my decision). Secondly, it's original research. It's also incorrect. It's not a difference between the book and the mini-series. It is not mentioned anywhere in any of Stephen King's novels (It is mentioned in other novels as well) ever that It is a female. In fact, I'm pretty damned sure that It is ABSENT of a sex. It isn't a "he" or a "she". No pun intended, but It is an it. It's true form is never shown. The deadlights is presumed to be closest to it's real form, if I'm not mistaken. It takes the form of whatever the victim is most afraid of. Oddly enough It always takes the form of a "male" version of the victim's terror. So if anything, it would be more easily arguable that It is a male instead of a female, however I still stand by my reasoning that It does not have a sex. --sumnjim ^{talk with me·changes} 15:26, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi from pennywise! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.34.195.62 (talk) 22:38, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure that's entirely true. In the novel, the idea that It will reproduce is crucial. It's true form is probably genderless, however, Chapter 21/3: The writer's woman had put out one powerful, horrified thought - OH DEAR JESUS IT IS FEMALE - and then all thoughts ceased. And, at the end of Chapter 21: That's Its egg-sac, Ben thought, and his mind seemed to shriek at the implication. Whatever It is beyond what we see, this representation is at least symbolically correct: It's female, and It's pregnant . . . It was pregnant then and none of us knew except Stan, oh Jesus Christ YES, it was Stan, Stan, not Mike, Stan who understood, Stan who told us . . . That's why we had to come back, no matter what, because It is female, It's pregnant with some unimaginable spawn . . . and Its time has drawn close.

Perhaps King's portrayal of It differs in other books, but in this one (which should be the most relevent to this film), it seems to me that this is a very important difference between the film and the novel. (I didn't insert the entry originally, however... the differences between the film and the book are so great I'm not sure it's even worth itemizing them.) 216.144.119.132 (talk) 13:55, 27 March 2008 (UTC)