Talk:Isuzu Piazza

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Contents 1 1.8L 2 LINK WARS... like star wars, only retarded 2.1 External link war 3 isuzone.org 4 Isuzupiazza.com 5 Huh? 6 Requested move 6.1 Survey 6.2 Discussion

[edit] 1.8L

I love these cars. This article provides excellent information for the isuzu newby. I noticed only one error in the whole thing. The 1.8 liter engine is 1809cc. The engines bore did remain the same just as the article stated while the stroke was increased to 90mm. They made this improvement to overcome the low end torque issue with the 1.6l engine that only had a 79mm stroke. [1] -Chance —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.212.4.32 (talk • contribs) 23:41, September 7, 2006.

Another error is that the Asuna Sunfire was sold until 1994 in canada not 1993 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.42.217.69 (talk) 18:50, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] LINK WARS... like star wars, only retarded

OK, this is getting rediculous, We all know there are more sites out there than Isuzuperformance. And to have you (IP 206.148.164...) come back and delete all others is childish at best.Jgregg 16:51, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok now it's AE86er doing the idiotic link deletion, perhaps you should go back to the toyota sites?Jgregg 00:19, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External link war

There's clearly some sort of problem going on with the external links, and which one should go first, etc. Would the people involved please stop the edit war and describe in this talk page what their views are about the links? Then perhaps we can reach an agreement over what should be included and where. (For example, the links could just be alphabetical.) – Kieran T ^{(talk | contribs)} 13:08, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

The involved accounts have been blocked for 6 hours for violating 3RR. When the 6 hours are over, please discuss these changes here rather than simply reverting each other. --Interiot 14:46, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Looks like we now have another newly created account playing the game. :( – Kieran T ^{(talk | contribs)} 15:21, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

For what it's worth, one of the people involved came on IRC, and indicated that they knew personal details about the other person involved in the edit war. It's possible this means that this edit war is an extension of an existing off-site dispute. --Interiot 21:52, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

As per the discussion below, I'm going to add the link back. -Jgregg 03:22, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

I went through this page, adding indents and signing all the comments so others could keep track of who's contributing what. I'll also post a link to this discussion at isuzone.org. --DeLarge 09:44, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] isuzone.org

Isuzone should be added to the links because it is for the Isuzu Enthusiast. It is more highly used then any of the other links posted. Isuzone is nothing more than somewhere to find info and chat to other people who share the same interest. Its just a forum so why not add it. -Chance

P.S. Someone else validate the info I posted about the 1.8L engine. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.212.4.32 (talk • contribs) 18:10, September 9, 2006.

Ok. Here is the start of the healing process.I am going to add isuzone as an external link. If anyone has aproblem with this they can post there reasons here. mine are the same as Chance. And please people from isuzone do not remove or modify links posted up by other people.~~ steve~~ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.57.15.74 (talk • contribs) 20:46, September 9, 2006.

I have no problem with Isuzone.org or "Isupage", both are non commercial informative sites. My is with the commercial site "Isuzuperformance". They have not made parts since 2002, even that website states "EFFECTIVE JUNE 17, 2002, WE HAVE DISCONTINUED A NUMBER OF HIGH END/LOW VOLUME PRODUCTS AND ALSO PRODUCTS WHICH WE HAD PREVIOUSLY SOLD AT A LOSS. IN ADDITION, WE WILL NO LONGER BE DEVELOPING NEW PARTS FOR ISUZU, GEO STORM, OR LOTUS VEHICLES TO SELL TO THE PUBLIC, AND WE ARE DISCONTINUING PRODUCTION OF OUR OWN ORIGINAL PARTS FOR THESE SAME VEHICLES, IN ORDER TO DEVOTE MORE PRODUCTION TO CHEVROLET AND PONTIAC HEADERS AND EXHAUST SYSTEMS." There is no need for a site that isnt even open for business.

Also to note is the same thing is occurring on the Geo Storm page.Jgregg 20:51, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

I second the notion to keep Isuzone as a link, it has been a tremendous source of information to me about my isuzu car and to many others. it especially has an abundance of knowlegde about the Impulse and is simply a forum open for discussion about these cars and continues to be a contribution to the education about Impulse's and other isuzu cars alike. The site would be a very helpful and useful link for anyone seeking more information about anything on this model car or others alike with other resources such as pictures, and "how to" and, "where to" info to help anyone who wants it. Thank you. -- Aamir Tariq 212.35.84.152 01:58, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Isuzone should be a link and should be the first link. As it is the only current source for Isuzu related topics and discussion. As Isuzu Performance has not been updated for atleast three years and the owner of that site has decided to not update, offer performance parts or be part of the Isuzu Community. As far as I am concerned his site should be completely taken off of the link site for good. Point blank the owner of Isuzu Performance keeps deleting Isuzone.org for personal reasons agianst the Isuzu Community and for whatever reason wants new comers to the community to think he is the end all be all of Isuzu. When his knowledge has been tested and proven minimal by the community over and over agian. There is NO OTHER place on the internet to gain current knowledge and performance tuning of our Isuzu Cars other than Isuzone.org. Isuzone is a non profit forum where poeple can come and share ideas, gain knowledge about their Isuzu made car.

Isuzuperformance was a for profit site years ago that cared nothing about his customers or the car itself but to make money selling pourly designed products of even lesser quality. He has since stoped selling products or offering any sort of help and being of any kind of value to the Isuzu performance car community. Everytime the owner of Isuzuperformance is contacted for information he may or may not have anymore they are greeted with disdain and contempt.

As far as wikipedia is concerned. It is a site for sharing free knowledge. Any knowledge from the owner of Isuzuperformance is definatly not free and ussually comes at a very high price. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.106.55.188 (talk • contribs) 22:40, September 12, 2006.

Re Isuzuperformance, ISTM that all of the links are direct links to specifications, sales data, etc. A lot of that information is not readily available elsewhere, and it is valuable information. IMO the links should be maintained, irrespective of anyone's opinions of the owner of the site.PMJzz 05:15, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Isuzupiazza.com

Does this site exist? I couldnt get it to come up. -Jgregg 21:08, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

isuzupiazza.com was up friday. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.166.212.209 (talk • contribs) 21:19, September 9, 2006.

yes, it looks like it's up. Nevermind. -Jgregg 03:20, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Huh?

Now, this isn't really something I can add (probably counts as "original research"), but back in the '80s, my family owned a Piazza. It suffered continual problems with reliability, and spare parts were difficult to obtain. We somehow ended up getting into contact with other people who had bought these useless lemons (this being the '80s, no internet, so goodness only knows how we did). Basically every one that was bought was returned for basic mechanical repairs. Eventually, when it came time to get rid of the car, it was even hard to find a salesman who'd accept it as a trade-in.

Looking at this page, there appears to be little or no evidence of this. Did we just end up in a bad cluster of cars? Or is something being ignored here? Johno 11:37, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move