Talk:Israelis
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[edit] someone should delete this article
israelis are NOT an ethnic group, being "israeli" is simply being citizen of state of israel, its not an ethnic term! there i no any senese of kinship among the arab, jewish, christian, druze or muslim populations of israel!!! Varcety 23:48, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- Who said they're an ethnic group ? The category you mean ? Btw, the fact there are muslim, christian and Jews doesn't mean they don't have any sense of kinship. Many non jews hold the flag dear to their hearts (many druze for example that you mentioned). Amoruso 00:10, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Perhaps the usage of {{Infobox Ethnic group}} in this article can be misleading. It's only supposed to be used in articles about ethnic groups, and "Israeli" is a nationality. Khoikhoi 10:51, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
- I don't see any agreement with you here, and your attempt to removed it from the Palestinian refugee article was reverted by somebody else. As they said... "removal of information shall not be tolerated"! lol Anyway... I'm going to do the same here and restore the infobox that you removed. Mathmo Talk 15:33, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
- It's inappropriate to have an ethnic group infobox in an article that's not about an ethnic group. Khoikhoi 19:20, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
- Not sure how this is different than French people or italian people, Israelis are a people, and can be classified as ethnic group also by the wiki article - which only says usually by ancestry etc. No problem with it here. Don't remove stuff without any consensus please. I agree that ethnic group doesn't describe it well but why remove the box ? Maybe change it like in French people and still include the information ? Amoruso 01:22, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
- "Israeli" is a nationality, not an ethnic group. Here's what the CIA Factbook says:
- Not sure how this is different than French people or italian people, Israelis are a people, and can be classified as ethnic group also by the wiki article - which only says usually by ancestry etc. No problem with it here. Don't remove stuff without any consensus please. I agree that ethnic group doesn't describe it well but why remove the box ? Maybe change it like in French people and still include the information ? Amoruso 01:22, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
- It's inappropriate to have an ethnic group infobox in an article that's not about an ethnic group. Khoikhoi 19:20, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
- I don't see any agreement with you here, and your attempt to removed it from the Palestinian refugee article was reverted by somebody else. As they said... "removal of information shall not be tolerated"! lol Anyway... I'm going to do the same here and restore the infobox that you removed. Mathmo Talk 15:33, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
- Perhaps the usage of {{Infobox Ethnic group}} in this article can be misleading. It's only supposed to be used in articles about ethnic groups, and "Israeli" is a nationality. Khoikhoi 10:51, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
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Ethnic groups: Jewish 76.4% (of which Israel-born 67.1%, Europe/America-born 22.6%, Africa-born 5.9%, Asia-born 4.2%), non-Jewish 23.6% (mostly Arab) (2004)
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- Yeah this is like trying to define Americans are an ethnic group which few would support. The Israelis aren't an ethnic group, but a multi-ethnic nation with various religions dominated by Judaism, Islam, Christianity etc. "Ethnic" varies as there are Georgian Jews, German Jews, Persian Jews etc. so how are all of these people an ethnic group? Not to mention Israeli Arabs and the Druze. It's not a tenable position at all. Tombseye 06:56, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
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- Also, the French and Italians have an established cultural position in their respective homelands. The Israelis are mostly new arrivals who came from Europe, other parts of the Mideast etc. Their names vary, mother tongues vary (they all learn Hebrew now true) so this is still more analogous to Americans, Canadians, Argentines etc. Tombseye 06:58, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
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Shift its purpose to talk about the people of Israel the ethnic divisons more indepth that in the article about demography.
[edit] Israeli Jews
Shouldn't we have a separate article Israeli Jews (Israeli Jew is now a redirect to Religion in Israel)? --Koryakov Yuri 16:52, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
