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[edit] Similar username

Hi, Isotope23.
Just a notice for you.
A new user has appeared with username similar to mine ("KuburaYuga").
He's not my sockpuppet. Kubura 14:24, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I think that users 'll recognize very soon "who is who".
They wouldn't expect from me to have "Yuga" in username.
I just wanted to inform you, and through you, other admins.
Admins 'll probably have some confusions at the beginning. Later, they'll see who is who. I just wanted to inform you, so admins won't have to waste their time searching "suspected" sockpuppet. Kubura 13:32, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Isotope23

I apologize for removing too much material from WP:ANI in an effort to resolve a problem. I had become impatient and rushed through the process; the result altered the meaning. Greater patience was called for by all parties, starting with me. Dino 16:41, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I have always been "cool" (meaning "calm"). Unfortunately, at that point I didn't have a lot of time to invest in the editing process; I got a little sloppy, which led to problems understanding what I was trying to do. There are privacy considerations that follow BFP from other venues; and it's difficult for those unfamiliar with the situation to fully understand its gravity. The inability to reach you via e-mail complicated matters. Dino 16:54, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Read this. Dino 18:20, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
First I tried to reach you by e-mail. Then, when I was unable to do so, I started editing your comments on WP:ANI, but I was sloppy. I'll take the time to write an e-mail later. For now, I counsel you to be patient with people who have privacy concerns. Not everyone is level-headed about such things. JzG has joined BenBurch and FAAFA in baiting and hectoring me for several days now. Dino 18:54, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:Letit22113snow

Hi Isotope23, I had this page on my watch list and just saw this edit. I reverted... just FYI. Robotman1974 16:41, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Here are a couple of their alternate accounts as well. I came across these earlier today : Letitsnow22113, Itshouldsnow22113. They did not think much of my request to stop using Wikipedia as a forum. Also, thanks for taking care of Qtangel7772. I asked the village pump for answers on how to handle that, and it appears that you have taken care of it. --Cyrus Andiron t/c 19:44, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tennessee (Movie)

I don't really know anything about how to work with Wikipedia. I am the production publicist for the film TENNESSEE and I'm trying to get the correct information up. I understand that Wikipedia isn't interested in what is true, but what is verifiable (from some other site, I guess.)

But you have two names, Luce Rains and Chris Browning listed--they have bit parts, maybe one line. And you put Bill Sage second (who works one day), don't mention Adam Rothenberg (the lead character), you have James D'Arcy listed (who's not in the film).

Why is this? I can only imagine that you used IMDB as a source. IMDB is an excellent site, but it is a ludicrous source when a film is in production. Any extra can give themselves a role (someone called himself "dancer"). Non-roles like Luce Rains can put it up as soon as they are cast. Lance Reddick, the fourth lead, was cast on a Monday and on set by Tuesday. It takes me two weeks to get that up on IMDB. The Tennessee IMDB listing is better now, but I'm still working on it.

The links that you have on this page all have been fixed, but when I try to fix the errors on Wikipedia, you change them back. The sources are in the links, and IMDB.

Help me. I just want to get the right information up. People count on you and then this incorrect information spreads around further and further.

But trusting IMDB for a film in production is something you should never do. Anyone who's heard a rumor can put it up. In addition to James D'Arcy, Bernie Mac and the rapper T.I. were up on IMDB at one point or another.

tHANKS, Reid RosefeltTiger the Frog 21:31, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] from us at timo3331

from the people on page timo3331, we will stop messaging on the page, but we ask one last request, please do not delete the remains of the past conversation on the page. it is a good memory to us to have. thank you —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.194.98.183 (talk) 00:32, 22 February 2007 (UTC).

That isn't really my decision. Someone else has recommended the pages for deletion and there is currently a discussion about this happening. The community will decide what to do with these pages.--Isotope23 15:32, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Web.com

I noticed that you removed protection from the above page without comments. Is the situation now considered "resolved"? Ohconfucius 04:32, 22 February 2007 (UTC) PS: you may reply to me here. Tx

[edit] Thanks

It's been a week since my recent request for adminship passed, and since I haven't managed to delete the Main Page - yet - I figure it's safe to send these out. Thanks a lot for participating in my RfA; I hope to do a good job. If you see me doing something wrong, need help, or just want to have a chat, please don't hesitate to drop by :) – riana_dzasta 07:24, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fuzzy Zoeller?

Just curious why the lawsuit references were removed? Seems to be a big news event. - Denny 14:43, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

cool, thanks. I saw the news online and then looked at the remains of that weak edit war on the article, and didn't want to step into a cow pie I didn't have time to stick out. - Denny 16:07, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discrimination on Wikipedia

Ever since you posted your conclusion on Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Henchman 2000, we have been treated unfavourably and unfairly by the rest of the community. Again, there is a problem with our similar beliefs, as people are trying to say that only one of us can take part in a vote just because we live in the same house. Geoff B has also tried to accuse henchman of puppetry. Basically, people are trying to say that Wikipedia works on a "one computer: one vote" basis when it works on a "one person: one vote" basis. You need to tell Geoff B and RobJ that we are two people. I also ask you if you could make sure the people who manage Afds know this as RobJ has tried to use this as an excuse to discount one of our votes on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mario Party 8 minigames. So, overall, can you please help make sure that Henchman and myself get the rights and respect we deserve as two individual users. Thanks. Bowsy (review me!) 19:29, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Here you go then. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mario Party 8 minigames (read RobJ's comment after Henchman's vote)
Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Henchman 2000 (Read Geoff B's comment on talk page)
Bowsy (review me!) 19:35, 22 February 2007 (UTC) Note: I will not be able to continue this discussion today

This should be noted: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Can_Someone_stamp_out_this_Sockpuppetry_Nonsense. Several editors agree it seems to be a case of meat puppetry. A comment from that: Recruiting editors to the wiki to back your poistion is definately wrong, and definately against policy.. Also there is this: (from the sockpuppet page, plus it was posted on the notice board section): The Arbitration Committee has ruled that, for the purpose of dispute resolution, when there is uncertainty whether a party is one user with sock puppets, or several users acting as meatpuppets, they may be treated as one individual. This is meat puppetry in my opinion, there is certainly no reason they should be treated as two users. Sharing the same opinion to help an AFD vote (or RFC on a talk page) in their favor, certainly isn't acceptable. RobJ1981 00:10, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I think the bottom line is this: the fact that you used the word "meatpuppetry" in your conclusion has mislead everyone into thinking that we are meatpuppets, and then they have seized the oppurtunity to use the "meatpuppetry" part of your conclusion to make them have less opposition in votes. Bowsy (review me!) 19:19, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: A Suggestion

What vandalism are you talking about? --PlayStation 69 00:56, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I think you know exactly what I'm talking about. I'm not going post a bunch of diffs here because I really want to give you a chance to edit here with out the stigma attached to previous accounts and what you did under them.--Isotope23 18:23, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Need for intervention

Hi, Isotope23.
I need help in this case.
If this part is not your "area", you can send me to another admin, who deals with this. We're having a problem with falsified history.
Problematic page is the page "Dubrovnik Republic" (persistently redirected by pro-Italian users to "Republic of Ragusa").
I don't want to exhaust you with the arguments, I'll put them on the talk page.
I can't do anymore reverts/changes, I'll earn a block or something even worse.
The user Giovanni Giove made this [1] change (there were similar one before). See the comment.
Recently (well, even longer, but recent changes of Italian users are blatant), there was a edit war between Croat and Italian users.
Then, I've posted a message to user Argyriou, thinking that he's an admin, because he intervened on that page (but he's not; I was faster to type, than to look on his userpage). However, you can see my discussion on his talk page. See the section "revisionism and imperialism". His attitudes terrify me. See also his change and especially his comment on the article Dubrovnik Republic [2].
What should I do?
I've put links to academy libraries on the talk page of the article Dubrovnik Republic ("Republic of Ragusa"), to a locations with precise data, that should solve the problem, but that's obviously not enough for some users. Those who are "against" simply play dumb.
I don't dare to make any changes on the article, because someone'll gladly have arguments to declare me (or other Croatian users) as "vandal, extremist, nationalist" etc.. Kubura 09:19, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm really not that knowledge about this stuff. Give me some time to take a look at it.--Isotope23 00:28, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

OK, no hurry. Kubura 08:45, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting Talk:Brian Peppers

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Talk:Brian Peppers. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. 62.31.67.29 14:37, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Matrix17 again

I would appreciate it if someone could take a look at Matrix17's additions to Wikipedia - I think you remember him. It's a constant effort cleaning up after him, and it's virtually impossible to reach out to him in helping him understand, among many issues, that adding exclusively Swedish references and links to articles really isn't helping or rendering his contributions notable enough for Wikipedia-fame. I'm getting tired of him removing and adding tags with his own judgement and basically ignoring everything you ask of him. I didn't think this was "bad" enough for WP:AN and if you think I should let this go I'm perfectly fine with that decision. --Strangnet 22:55, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Dont let your personal opinion about a person decide

Hi. i just want to tell you i wish you could be a little bit more professional when i comes to some articles. like Robert Bierenbaum their was nothing wrong with the article and you now that. I have others who looked into it and sayed it was a obvious not a deletion page. Please dont let you personal opinion about the person writing it decide how to work with some of the articles. And i now you will write back that it is because i dont write good. but that article in particular was good.And you shall always notify the article maker when you put a article up for deletion. Thanks!--Matrix17 17:06, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


Yeah you do that. the article wont be deleted anyway!--Matrix17 19:41, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


Do you seriously think their would be like 20-30 articles on this person on the internet if he didnt existed. look at the discussion page.their is more people that think you opinion about this article is a bit strange.but as i sayed the article wont be deleted.--Matrix17 19:46, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I never said he didn't exist... I said he didn't meet WP:BIO and I'm not particularly concerned what anyone else thinks of my opinion.--Isotope23 19:48, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Well dont get your hopes up man--Matrix17 19:50, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

and I don't see evidence that a credible assertion even exists.--Isotope23 19:44, 25 February 2007 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Matrix17" THAT WAS YOUR EXACT ANSWER.

Maybe i did maybe i didnt. i have left a answer on the discussion on Robert Bierenbaum--Matrix17 20:00, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

as you can see the article has becomed even better then before,so it wont be deleted.. you cant report this now it will only be a waste of time,sorry pal.--Matrix17 20:10, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Just a friendly hello

Just stopping by your page to say hi. Sometimes it's better to work together than to constantly get into edit wars. Maybe someday I'll set up my user page, but I might want to create an account one day and have a username instead. Well, have a good evening. 66.108.144.31 00:55, 26 February 2007 (UTC)


Look on my talk page. you have a message their under the Tag discussion from somebody--Matrix17 17:09, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Maybe YOU should try to show the same respect as you always are saying that other should show.you not exactly living as you preaching. And i was just debating that i think that should be on the fearne page, thats all everyoen cant agree with you just because you are a editor here.And as you have seen some other people think you have made mistakes in your way of taking care of some pages,people dont always agee with you.--Matrix17 18:17, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

the man form the TAG discussion on my page obviously didnt like what you did in one way or another. and had to take form hes own time just to prove to oyu soemthing obvious with another page. that is a bad attitude.--Matrix17 18:23, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Heinrich Adulf (talk • contribs • logs)

That may have been a good idea. I figured I shouldn't just because it looked like a sock of User:XX7, who made some good faith edits before repeatedly removing warnings on his/her talk page after warnings not to. ShadowHalo 19:14, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I hadn't known about the other potential socks or the WP:AN/I report. I saw the userpage was linked to from WP:AN/I a few minutes ago, so I've left some comments there. ShadowHalo 19:38, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] BOV1993

Seeing as the block is for racial and death threats I think I was pretty forgiving in not blocking him indefinitely. If you want to consider reducing the block, please contact RevJohn to who he made those comments and see how he feels about a reduction. - Mgm|(talk) 20:45, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Sorry, I should get more sleep. I obviously misunderstood what you meant. You say "burned through two accounts" and "indef-blocked before". If that's true, he's guilty of sockpuppetry and/or ban evasion. Could you point me to where you got this info? - Mgm|(talk) 21:47, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hearts and Minds etc.

Isotope, in response to your comment that you'd like to see discussion on the issue, I'd like to point out Talk:Characters_of_Lost#Flashback_characters where it was discussed and I feel consensus reached. It was also discussed before that at Talk:List_of_Lost_episodes#Shannon.2C_Boone_vs._Boone with similar results. I'd like your opinion on whether consensus was reached and what is the recommended next step to resolve the situation. Thanks. --Milo H Minderbinder 23:38, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Vozas has reverted again including the edit we both thought was a pretty good compromise. [3] [4]. Any suggestions? --Milo H Minderbinder 19:40, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
And both reverted once again. What do you suggest at this point? It seems obvious that he's not going to accept consensus and will just keep reverting these until he gets his way, regardless of what anyone else has to say. Is this the kind of thing an admin can take action on, or will it have to go to RfC or something similar? --Milo H Minderbinder 14:21, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

FYI: Request for unprotection --Milo H Minderbinder 17:26, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Another revert from Vozas at List of Lost episodes. Any suggestions on what to do, or do you want to handle it? --Milo H Minderbinder 14:24, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
[5] --Milo H Minderbinder 20:46, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Any suggestions on what to do about Vozas? Back from his block, he reverted two of the articles again. Seems like he'll probably do this indefinitely. --Milo H Minderbinder 13:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Claudette Colbert

Hi Isotope23, I just wanted to thank you for your actions and for the promptness with which you responded. I appreciate it very much, and hope that it will allow for the situation to cool down. Thanks Rossrs 14:03, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Adam Ritz

In the summary of a rem'l of an LoPbN entry, "redlink" is a lousy reason, for many of the same reasons that rd-lks are valuable in articles. Deletion of the lk'd article is a good reason, and your citing del'n when rm'g from LoPbN would save others the research needed to know you're not just promiscuously del'g rd lks. Thanks.
--Jerzy•t 17:59, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Redlinks for an individual in a list with absolutely no justification for why they would ever merit an article should probably be nuked anyway...--Isotope23 18:09, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A host of Starwars1955 socks

Hey, sorry to bother you, but I've stumbled upon quite a number of new socks by this banned user. They are:

My claim that these are all socks follows from the fact that the last name in the list is an obvious sock, as he blanked the page of a recent sock of Starwars1955. He has edited the userpages in his quirky way for all of the above accounts. To see for yourself, check these contributions. Please block these at your earliest convenience. Thanks. –King Bee (T • C) 21:53, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Right, but I thought he was already blocked. In any event, thanks for taking care of it. You're a stand up kinda sysop. –King Bee (T • C) 06:04, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I thank you for being here!

Lee Nysted 03:24, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 132.216.104.200

It was actually Constantzeanu evading his one-month block. Both users live in Montréal, although NorbertArthur's IPs always start with 66.36.xxx.xx. Khoikhoi 07:11, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Do you think Constantzeanu's block should be extended? Khoikhoi 09:17, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] reply: They got off-topic...

I don't want to reply to your comment in forum, since Mangojuice "stopped" the discussion with the archive template, but with all due respect- you are wrong.

I did not get off topic; I simply asked what the board was for -and Chaz started in on off-topic ArbCom discussion.

He is the one who discussed off-topic material (not me; i replied telling him to take it elsewhere to the proper board) -and took pot-shots at me.

I'm surprised you can't see who was discussion on topic, common sense material -but whatever - no hard feelings; just would like people who veer off course to catch the 1st rays of heat instead of the ones who ask legitimate valid questions.

--GordonWatts 15:15, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

The discussion was about the community notice board as a whole. What you asked was specific to your community ban discussion and veered the topic off in a direction that was frankly useless to a discussion of the noticeboard as a whole. Maybe it wasn't your intent to do so, but any "heat" you were catching was because you were issuing "sanction warnings" where you really have no business doing so. You are free to disagree with me, but the topic was not helpful and was detracting from the main, on topic, discussion. Nobody posting there was on topic; I only warned you specifically because of the threat of sanctions you made against another editor.--Isotope23 15:26, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
THEY veered off-topic... "they," meaning a whole host of other editors (Leebo, Chaz, Calton, Frederick). Yes, my question related to me -but it related to the board, because Radiant's quote mentioned me by name, and that was on topic. OK, maybe I got hot, but had I not, then the foolishness might have continued a forte night! Thank you for not singling me out in your analysis. I appreciate fairness -no hard feelings are on my end.--GordonWatts 15:31, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Now the WP:COI/N noticeboard passes the ball to YOU!

Thank you for stepping in and protecting Farm Sanctuary. Although User:SchmuckyTheCat opened up this issue on 27 February on COI/N, it wasn't clear there was a whole lot we could do. There seemed to be a ton of conflict of interest, but the conflicted editors seemed unlikely to be cooperative. For him to take it to WP:AN/I was probably the right thing to do, since the regular editors on our noticeboard are not administrators. I posted this update here to notify our readers of your response at AN/I. I don't know what further process you are hoping for at this point. I did notice Farm Sanctuary supporters removing what appeared to be well-sourced information from that article. EdJohnston 16:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MP8mg

Yeah, I checked just before I posted it. I don't know why I made the mistake. The edit was approprate. Thanks for keeping me in check. McKay 16:48, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] XX7 (talk • contribs • logs)

The main reason for the block was not so much the removing content in itself. Pretty much, XX7 broke WP:3RR by removing the template six times in one day. I'd have gladly overlooked it had (s)he agreed to leave it there. Unfortunately, the user continued to remove it several more times. ShadowHalo 16:55, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Isotope, you may want to see the note I left at User talk:ShadowHalo#Your block of XX7 (talk • contribs) if you haven't already. --A. B. (talk) 17:47, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
PS Interesting, if ambiguous, user name -- are you stable? --A. B. (talk)

[edit] Another LOST situation

When you have a minute, could you look at Expos (Lost) and Exposé (Lost)? An editor has "moved" the page by changing the original article (the former) to a redirect and pasting the contents to a new article, screwing up the page history. Honestly, at this point I don't know what the correct name should be, but if a move is required, it should happen by simply moving (and preserving the history) or putting it on RM. I've seen this same editor do the exact same thing with other articles, and unfortunately he seems willing to move/revert war over it instead of following process. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. --Milo H Minderbinder 00:07, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. --Milo H Minderbinder 13:56, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] It's happening again!

I have been accused of being Henchman's meatpuppet. The "evidence" in Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Henchman 2000 (2nd) shows that the accuser has not taken your comments on the matter on board Bowsy (review me!) 09:13, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the Mario games update !

I suspect my involvement in these (game) cases will be to be supportive of analysis and reliable information, rather than deletion. For my family, it hardly helps us if we are left to our own devices when attempting to do research on the web. I, personally, know next to nothing about video games, albeit, my children have some interest in same.

One key "note" here... I disagree that non-trivial articles do not make Wikipedia better. We advertise the size of our arsenal every day. If taken to a log scale, we could eliminate all articles for the same reason you use to keep. Information technology being what it is, we want to be the main source of all accurate and reliable information. I laugh at that but maybe Jimbo would not. (?) ...As he walks to a car for the airport laughing. Lee Nysted 15:13, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Why aren't you going to handle it? It is blatant ignorance of your, Jzg and Llama man's verdicts and is nothing more than an elaborate form of harassing us for participating in the same RFCs and AfDs. We could be unfairly indefblocked or discriminated against forever! Bowsy (review me!) 15:55, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:nevalex

Hi

I wounder why you marked Itransition page as spam and advertising as I've settled this matter with editor and it was approoved not to be and advert. I would like to hear a reason for that. The text is neutral and contains no add hints - just an overall about the comapny and its activiity

thanx

nevalex

[edit] Tolkien

That's cool. I don't know how to resolve all the issues (the template, plus Ballie Tolkien, etc). But I'm sure something will be figured out. Cheers, Fang Aili talk 17:08, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:nevalex

Can I have the reason for deletion nearsiourcing page ? There was no warning and no reason explained Nevalex 17:13, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Puddle Jumper

Look at the above link, there is one article, the article does not require disambiguation and is a proper now, Puddle Jumper is blocking the way for a move, thus needs to be deleted to move. Then I intended to add a disambiguation note for point one, point three is non-notable. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 17:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of nearsourcing. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Nevalex 17:40, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Please sign your talk page posts by appending them with four tildes 4leona2 21:16, 1 March 2007 (UTC) to get the IP / user ID and the time-date stamp automatically appended. Labyrinth13 19:49, 1 March 2007 (UTC)



I am currently lost in the tidles can you guide me through this common exercise. I am a fast learner but absolutely dont know where on earth to begin I dont know how you get the blue letters or anything a quick easy description is best for me ... It took me years to peice togeather the material on Leona Roberts .... but I probably have you thinking I am a complete genious who isnt good at spelling and and following rules . I just dont know all the rules and have constantly asked for assistance . I tseems you fellas really are concerned with the Zodiac and getting good information out there .. so why not help someone out walk me through the process and lets grow from the experience .. I can email you all the information you can fuck with it to make it work and we can move forward, otherwise this may take three four eons to work out . I am sure you are talented and know all the rules that apply .. I on the other hand have all the documented stories categorically organized in a method that will blow the case wide open.... sounds like a positive effort in the making .. Either that or be like the rest of the people who say they are interested in the truth and find a million excuses why their own opinion is more powerfull than Previously documented , reliable sorced information. Basically I need help and am asking for it . If you are not here to help but find ways to improve the site by running Wikipedia Politic thats perfectly fine , but in the end know that it was you who had a chance to respond to the needs and balked. I am just saying this because it happens so many times that others say they will help only to balk also. I suppose tht I should be asking before assuming ... exactly what is your purpose around here. Are you in a position to help/ Are you interested in the Zodiac Story and or any of my related informationin Regards to Hunte ror Leona Roberts.

Is there a method that I can post the coincidence that show all the similaritis in the victims . The similarities are documented so that is not a problem . Would this be a new topic under profil of the murder or something to that extent. If so would that avenue best servr interested parties and add information deemed neccessary in order to possibly identify other victims. for instance Leona was tied up using a clothesline and Ceclia was also tied up both were listed as Zodiac victim but other circumstancial evidence lead authorities to beleive they were connected to the Zodiac . all the information is available although obscure in files that were include in the investigation in Santa Rosa involving 17 different departments involved in the metting. Is this document considered sorce that is citeable .. Pleas help as this is deeper than I ever intend to get. You have the one end to amke it happen and I have the other. So what is it .. Thanks Carl Rosaia I dont know tidles so basically I signed it for now thats the best I can do Pleas help

[edit] Signature

I have already offered to remove it, see here. If further discussion on ANI determines it should be removed I will be more than happy to do so, however it saddens me that someone who has spent weeks engaging in a never ending campaign against Irish Republican related articles should try and force his POV pushing this far. Thanks. One Night In HackneyIRA 21:37, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, will do. In the interim here's an example of his activities from the last hour [6]. The reference link provided is currently a 404, however the name of the newspaper and publication date are provided. That's still a well sourced claim, yet he removes it claiming WP:BLP. I've had this discussion with him for two days now, a source does not have to be available online to be a source. Thanks. One Night In Hackney 21:55, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. I'm gathering evidence of his actions anyway, there will be plenty. One Night In Hackney1916 22:42, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Not has chance to detail the latest problems as yet, but you could look at this for a background on his behaviour. More to follow on the latest problems. Thanks. One Night In Hackney1916 23:37, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Semi-protection for Zodiac killer page?

Hi: Jeffpw suggested that I contact you about possibly placing the Zodiac killer entry in semi-protection for the next few days. I have personally had to revert blatant vandalism at least four times today by anonymous IP addresses (and others). Your thoughts/assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

-- Labyrinth13 00:03, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry

Sorry about moving the "Expose" page, but I created one to begin with, and then it either got moved or deleted. Then someone else came along and made the page and it didn't get deleted. Remember, this episode hasn't even been confirmed by ABC yet. If I'm wrong, please let me know. -- SilvaStorm

Fair enough. -- SilvaStorm

[edit] Suspected sockpuppet cases

Hello, I recently found out that I was accused of being a sockpuppet, but when I checked the report(Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Gregory9) it said it was already closed by you. But my user page still has a sockpuppet warning on it. Am I allowed to remove that, or do I need to ask a bystander to do it?

Following the links to see what in the world happenned, I saw the case on User:Ati3414 and your comments which suggest you believe Sfarti can keep posting as long as he is not banned. That is incorrect, an editor may not post anonymously or under a different name to get around a block. In this case User:Ati3414 was indef blocked. When caught evading the block he immediately assumed it was me, and I had to deal with the school and police being called again. All I have to say is be glad that he doesn't know your contact info (or any other editor's) or they'd probably be getting called as well everytime Ati3414 gets upset. It's not nice having to deal with that nonsense in real life, and I'm glad everything here resolved itself before I even knew what was going on, but please do not suggest that he actually should be allowed to evade his blocks. If I misunderstood and that isn't what you meant, I appologize. -- Gregory9 10:33, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Prohibitions in Sikhism

Can you keep a close eye as people are already changing what we agreed before. I reverted back but I don't want to get into a reversion war again.--Sikh-history 12:37, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

It is on my watchlist.--Isotope23 13:58, 2 March 2007 (UTC)


you would happily block me i can imagine;)--Matrix17 14:20, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Roaster

Currently avoiding the block with IP:199.43.14.101 and against breached WP:NPA on my talk page. regards--Vintagekits 15:55, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Seems to have stopped. What is interesting is that they seem to be trolling from their employer's computer...--Isotope23 17:34, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Started again under the IP that I listed above. regards--Vintagekits 13:21, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] External link

Hey there, just an FYI; Its an external link as the WP mirrors dont mirror our userspace - so if it was done as an internal link it wouldnt work. The same thing is done on Jimmy Wales under further reading. :) Glen 22:22, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please respond

[7] --Michael Snow 00:26, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Daniel Brandt AfD

I know your DRV close notes indicated this would go through AfD in a week, but the article was turning into a battleground of speedy deletion nominations, WP:IAR stub/protect actions and other related editing that was, at least in my fairly outside opinion, a deteriorating situation. That said, I've gone ahead and nominated it for AfD as a procedural action with a request that the AfD be allowed to go the full 5 days with no WP:SNOW or other early closures. Just thought I'd let you know. Cheers!--Isotope23 18:55, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok! Don't mind that so many people seemed to agree with my close, they're probably just silly! Some people might have worried that starting the debate right in the very middle of, as you say, an ongoing "battleground" and "deteriorating situation" might not have been the best idea, but don't worry about that either! I'm sure you took that into consideration and decided that it wouldn't be a problem. And it's really no big deal that recent events have done nothing but underline that rushing things and taking unpredictable action is what causes all the trouble. It's no big deal at all! Cheers! --bainer (talk) 10:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:CANVAS

If you warned me about canvassing, why didn't you warn RobJ when he canvassed for Geoff B's support on my RfC. here is proof. Henchman 2000 15:47, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Astrotrain RfC

It's been filed at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Astrotrain if you want to take a look at the dispute. Thanks. One Night In Hackney303 22:49, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Favor...

Hello, Isotope23! I've been watching you lately, and I think that you're a cool editor! Can you please sign my autograph book? Thanks! User:Cremepuff222/Signature

[edit] Sources

What sources can you cite for the minigame lists? Bowsy (review me!) 09:00, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wrestling Page moves

Could you please move back the pages on wrestling pay-per-view articles? There was still an ongoing discussion on WWE Cyber Sunday's talk page and the majority opposes the move. Thank you. -- bulletproof 3:16 19:10, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind. -- bulletproof 3:16 19:34, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] reply on noticeboard

Ok, ok with the comments about UofM. :P I replied at the notice board. It is funny the user PhJ is making reports like this, because he has already been warned more than once to stop blanking edits on the talk page. He is going post by post and censoring selective lines of other editor's posts. I asked one guy how to say something in Ladin, by saying "hey ladin dude". This is a personal attack? o_O Maybe PhJ doesn't have a full understanding of English (which is fine), and this makes him think everything is an attack. I do not know, and I suggested that because of this he err on the side of caution. The bottom line is he can't just go and selectively blank other's edits. Taalo 21:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I've lived in Michigan too long to pass up a UofM dig when the the opportunity presents itself  :)--Isotope23 01:26, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering if you were an OSU alumi actually. :P Are you still in Michigan then? I really had enough of the cold, so I bailed out to the left coast. I can still recommend the best Japanese restaurant in about all of the US though, if you're interested... hah! later, Taalo 03:37, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
If I don't have to mention the O-word, all the better to me as well. :P The restaurant is Ajishin, and is located in Novi. I can get you more specific directions if you need. This place turns out to be one of the things we miss about Michigan the most..hah. Just try stuff like their california rolls or their salmon and salmon roe. The owners are from Japan, and their attention to the food is amazing. Dude, I can't even take temps below 70F anymore. Messed up, isn't it? hah. Taalo 17:37, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] noticeboard

As PhJ and Gryffindor are just using the noticeboard now to basically poke at me, could this case be resolved? Even though it doesn't look like PhJ feels he did anything wrong, at least he has stopped editing other's edits. The day I can get away from this group.. :))))) Taalo 17:39, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Claudette Colbert

Hi Isotope, I notice you removed some text saying that it was copied from http://www.goupstate.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=NEWS&template=wiki&text=It_Happened_One_Night. I've just had a look at that site and it's a Wiki mirror. So yes, the text was copied, but they copied it from us.  :-) Rossrs 21:01, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, sorry I didn't realize it had been cited as the source, and that's wrong as you said. With all the activity on that particular page I'm losing track of what's going on. Thanks Rossrs 22:52, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Picture Upload

Isotope—--could you please help me figure out how to load an image onto my "Viliuisk Encephalomyelitis" contribution page. Thanks--Goose359 16:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Decision to Merge the Death of Anna Nicole Smith

Dear Isotope123, I'm curious as to how the decision was made now to merge the Death of Anna Nicole Smith article into the main ANS article. I am not arguing the decision itself, altho I think it a few weeks premature, but wonder as to the process. Your use of the passive voice doesn't provide information about who made the decision and why. Thanx. Bellagio99 17:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A wrong page

Hi, Please llok at these 2 page. There should be a problem:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/You and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/An English word.. belongs in Wiktionary, not here--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 19:56, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question on canvassing

Are these examples of canvassing? [8] and [9]. He clearly knows they will vote keep (from past AFDs), so he let them know of the new AFD. Also a user admits to voting in the AFD because of a canvas: [10]. That same user flooded the AFD with the same comment as a response to several people, is there anything against that? I find it very disruptive. I realize AFDs aren't about the number of votes, it's about the arguements. But I feel this is a form of canvassing, and thought I would ask you (since you warned him before about it). RobJ1981 22:51, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Captain Grant Sparrow Deletion

Hey Isotope, I created this article because it was a red link in the Pirates of the Caribbean template. I then found the right article which has been previously created under Grant Sparrow so we don't really need the Captain Grant Sparrow article since it's just a double of the other one. Cheers! - Fedayee 01:00, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Robert Coulter

Could you please undelete Talk:Robert Coulter, as the page was wrongfully moved and is now back in place? Thank you. Errabee 01:30, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, thank you. I noticed the page because it said on the WPBiography log that this article had been removed, which leads to the conclusion that once it must have had a WPBiography template. As I didn't know what else had been written on the talk page, I decided it was best to ask you. I've again created the Talk page with the Biography project. Errabee 13:52, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting articles

You might like to know you just managed to delete an article on someone who was the King of England for twenty-five years - Edward the Elder. Quite the achievement, that - especially citing CSD A7!

On examination, it had been vandalised and replaced with junk about someone else; it was then tagged for deletion (god knows why it wasn't reverted) and you nuked it. Fair enough, but it might be advisable to make a practice of checking the history in future... the page had 150 edits and was almost five years old, and someone was sufficiently surprised they wrote to complain about it... Shimgray | talk | 00:16, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Caspian (Band) Protected Deletion

Howdy. I noticed you deleted and then blocked any possible page on the band Caspian. In its deletion history, I believe it was NawlinWiki who deleted the article because it was an "nonnotable band." Seeing as that there is a page for The Creepshow, which has fewer listeners on both MySpace and LastFm and has significantly fewer hits when searched on google, I think the page should be unblocked. Concerning the comment that the page may be lacking sources, that may be (I have no clue since I don't have access to what the page was). Still, seeing as that the band does have a sizeable following relative to other bands on wikipedia, it should be unblocked so that someone can have the chance of creating a worthwhile article. Shinybluepope

[edit] Canvassing by Henchman 2000 again

Despite your warning from a month ago User_talk:Henchman_2000#WP:CANVAS and your opinion from a few days ago when he canvassed about another AFD, Henchman 2000 has canvassed again today with this edit. He got a comment back from the user saying not to canvass him again User_talk:Henchman_2000#MP_Advance_mgs. Anything you think should be done here? Metros232 15:42, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I did not think that that would qualify as canvassing, in fact, it isn't canvassing as I am not encouraging users to vote on my side, I used an opinion, which was mine, and was in no way intended to influence the vote. Henchman 2000 19:19, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Well he has done canvassing again: [[11]]. McKay has voted keep in the past, so Henchman goes to him to get another vote on AFDs (which he did before as well). RobJ1981 20:13, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AFD question

How do you nominate an article for a 2nd time (after it's been in AFD in the past). I looked at the AFD page, and didn't see anything on it. RobJ1981 06:19, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] XPRESS UAE

Links to sites referencing the XPRESS UAE launch have been posted to the wiki. Lockes 18:04, 26 March 2007

[edit] User 82.36.139.243

Seems to be vandalising many Sikh pages. Is this the old spam war again? --Sikh-history 22:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shock Site protection

You've went and protected the Shock site article, but did you realize that the version that you've put up there is the wrong version? A quick glance at the talk page shows that Mangojuice is the user that disgrees with the rest of the community, and his edit there is the one that has been placed up and protected. I wholeheartedly agree with the decision to protect the page, since Mangojuice continues his edit war on a daily basis, but you've used the wrong revision. If it is to remain protected, please revert it to the revision which the rest of the community on the talk page supports. Aftli 16:20, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I think it might be more appropriate to make the page fully protected. This is fundamentally an edit war, not mere vandalism. I'm going to put up an article RfC in the meanwhile. I think full protection is more appropriate, because although I will have the ability to edit the article regardless, the semi-protection creates an imbalance in an edit war between these newcomers and other non-admin users that support my side. I would consider editing by me in a fully-protected state as a use of my admin tools, which I've been good about avoiding (as you suggested). Mangojuicetalk 17:14, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
It's already fully protected after another editor started adding unsourced content after the semi-protection. Regardless, I agree that an RfC with some input from editors who have no previous history with this article is what is needed here.--Isotope23 17:18, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Henchman 2000

Henchman canvassed again; see [12]. — MalcolmUse the schwartz! 22:10, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

How was that canvassing? I didn't ask him to take a particular side. Henchman 2000 18:02, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Exposé (Lost)

Hi Isotope23, I accidentally rvv'd your edit to Exposé (Lost) (I happened to have the wrong tab open and, as it turns out, my fingers were quicker than my brain). Please accept my apologies. -- Seed 2.0 19:26, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I guess I am a posterchild for too-many-tabs-open-at-any-given-time syndrome. ;) -- Seed 2.0 22:50, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi. I was wondering why you chose to speedy delete Exposé (Lost). The article was in rather poor shape, but seemed to be well above speedy standards. Thanks! ChazBeckett 19:12, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reply to user:Seicer

No problem; where should I have listed it at? Seicer (talk) (contribs) 18:53, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Leagal Threats

Just to clear the air! I'm not making the threats, I'm trying to cool the situation! WackadooXanadu2 03:19, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] yes

Yeha you are right, but i still have my opinion.--Matrix17 10:03, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bowsy/Henchman 2000 note

I know I've been a little hard on the two of them in previous exchanges, but I found a couple very odd edits between the two of them and due to the previous history it might be best if you were to pass along the "Thats a bad idea" message if it so deserves. Hench nominated Wikipedia:Fancruft over at MfD here. 4 minutes after that nom, Bowsy shows up to support the delete poistion, then it snowballs into keep, with accusations of a badfaith nomination. Due to the admitted shareing of a computer, this looks pretty much like someone asking his roommate/friend/whatever to log in real quick and give him the vote, meatpuppeting, or less sinister but seems something that they'd best want to steer away from. Anyway, persue as desired. Thanks. -Mask 21:13, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wackadoo

Isotope, I just thought I would let you know that I have added to your last message on User:WackadooXanadu2's talk page. I hope it's not out of line. I am very angry with her carelessness as I hope you understand. I have indeed contacted another user on this issue by email and given the evidence to him, and I also asked that editing of the Professional wrestling in Australia page be blocked for a few weeks to allow this situation to cool off. It hasn't been edited since I restored order in there (taking both feds out in order to keep an edit war off WP - which frankly Wackadoo's carelessness has actually encouraged with her foolish emails to both feds) and it needs to stay that way in my opinion as far as local promotions go. Curse of Fenric 03:06, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Yep, that is probably a good ide for the time being.--Isotope23 13:25, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Amen

Rockstar915 19:31, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vote for the Worst

What was unique about this attack was that 2 happened simultaneously exactly during the voting part of the episode. The website owners assumed that it was to keep people from seeing Sanjaya's number on the webpage. Hmwith 05:40, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

  • It's not coincidental that it was the exact same time of the voting part of the show? Hmwith 16:41, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Oh, okay. You know a lot more about it than I do. Thank you for clarifying it for a newbie like myself. Hmwith 17:04, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ANOTHER discriminative case!

Please read this and this I'd say were probably a hair's breadth away from getting indefblocked for no good reason this time so can you please sort this out? Bowsy (review me!) 08:07, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Asking for an admin's input

I reverted an edit that emptied a banned editor's user page, since I assumed that since noone had done it, it wasn't customary to do in banned cases. I would appreciate if you could leave your input on the case? Thanks. --Strangnet 14:24, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Per your suggestion

I went ahead and created the CN thread seeking a consensus-gathering-process ban for Bowsy and Henchman together, while allowing one of them to participate in the XfD's and so forth. You can read the much more intelligent sounding writeup of that at CN -Mask 17:24, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for commenting at the WP:CN but a note for you, Bowsy is currently spamming the statement that you just clarified to the talkpage of everyone in support of the ban, you may wish to correct this. -Mask 18:47, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
I dont care one way or the other, you put it out in the open on cn, I was just thinking it might concern you :) -Mask 18:56, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] PROBLEM!

I thought you said it was fine for us to participate in the same XfDs. I do not see why we should be banned for sharing a computer as it is unfair and unjust. We deserve to be heard. Bowsy (review me!) 18:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

But it's not fair! You never supported it and banning is only going to leave us with no vote and no voice. Also, I did show them your verdict from Henchman's RFC but it isn't doing anything! I think you may need to go to the CN and Sir Fozzie and finalise the fact that you did say this. Bowsy (review me!) 18:35, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of Chinese inventions

Greetings,

I have nominated the List of Chinese inventions article for deletion. I looked up in the article history and came across your contributions. The AfD would benefit immensely from the scrutiny of an administrator. Could I trouble you for a comment here ? Regards, Moerou toukon 16:43, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't really have any opinion on this... my edit was in relation to someone trolling.--Isotope23 17:12, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the prompt reply and my apologies for the intrusion. Regards, Moerou toukon 17:43, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks once again for the kind response. Best Wishes, Moerou toukon 18:12, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Collierville Middle School

why did you not delete how is it notable? what has happened to wikipedia.Notability Crusader 07:14, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Seems that this is an addition to calls for changes to schools/districts in Southampton and Portsmouth suggested by Notability Crusader (contributions) and the admitted same person 82.26.107.104 (contributions) made while the proposer was trying to disrupt Wikipedia to make a point, I shall remove it. -- Drappel 10:55, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requesting intervention or advice

At present, three editors User:Tom Voigt, User:Labyrinth13 and User:Zdefector are engaging in a series of personal attacks against each other at the Zodiac killer entry on this discussion page thread: "Continued counterproductive badmouthing". I have requested three times that everyone (myself included) should simply cease and desist and walk away, but I fear that things are only going to get more personal there. Intervention by an admin before this gets farther out of hand would be a huge help. If you think that I should post this at the admin noticeboard instead, then please advise. Thank you. Labyrinth13 13:39, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the time to respond to the above request and for reviewing the actions of everyone involved in the recent dispute and rendering your opinion. I think your assessment of the situation was an accurate one. It is my intention to more closely examine my own behavior and motivations when editing or commenting at that entry in the future.
In the comment that just posted at the Zodiac killer discussion area, you wrote: If there is an editor (or editors) who are negatively impacting the ability of the rest of the community to create a good article, then it is time to star a User WP:RFC or WP:RFM. If someone is being particularly disruptive, then report them to WP:ANI along with a diff of the disruptive behavior.
In my opinion, formal mediation probably was needed around the time that this first started (over a month ago), but thanks to the very helpful efforts of User:Jeffpw, the situation there improved dramatically and until the latest mud-slinging started, all was relatively calm.
My only questions to you at this point are these:
Question 1: In a dispute such as this one, is the amount of actual productive “done for the good of the entry” work an editor does balanced against the non-productive, verbal sparring just for the sake of being contentious (such as what has been going on there for months) something that is given consideration when an admin renders an opinion?
Question 2: Since Voight was thwarted in his efforts to get a prominent link to his website displayed at the entry, his presence there now, in my opinion, seems to be primarily driven by his need to vent his anger over what he sees as injustices he believes he has suffered there. Is that the sort of thing that one can file a formal WP:ANI dispute over? (As you can see, this is quite similar to Question 1 above).
Finally, if you choose to respond to this, would you post your answers on my talk page?
Thanks, again. Labyrinth13 19:43, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Obligations in Freemasonry

The article was started as a POV fork (by a user now since banned), and once the unsourced material that the user wanted added was removed for failing RS, the article text became exactly the same as what's already in the main article (because that was directly sourced out in the first place). The user who wanted to make the article decided he wanted to generalize and "expose" all of Masonry through an 1866 text that's already freely available on sites like ISTA. I really don't want to have to fight over an article for months when, when it is written properly, said article adds no value. I'll send it to AfD, but I figured that "totally duplicated content" would be a valid speedy reason. MSJapan 17:33, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of MySpace Events

i reposted it because it complements MySpace Events page. It shouldn't have been deleted in the first place without a discussion (*i have started one now). It shouldve only been deleted if the main page was deleted. Martini833 19:26, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] No change

Despite this. Andy Mabbett 22:51, 9 April 2007 (UTC)