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1 Jihad Against Usurpers?
2 Birth date
3 incarceration
4 Being a "moderate"...
5 Better photo would be good
6 Jumping the gun?
7 Re: being a moderate
8 Ismail Haniyeh email address
9 Name of article
10 Reason behind his arrests/assassination attempt
11 Elimination
12 Moderate

[edit] Jihad Against Usurpers?

"We will never recognize the usurper Zionist government and will continue our jihad-like movement until the liberation of Jerusalem." This is a highly provocative quote, and the link given for it (http://www.forbes.com/technology/ebusiness/feeds/ap/2006/12/08/ap3240289.html) doesn't work. Furthermore, it practically contradict other statements made in another interview (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/24/AR2006022402317_pf.html). Can someone either verify the accuracy or remove the quote? --Queenrani 23:01, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Never mind, found it here. Can someone please replace the citation (#10) with this? i don't know how. --Queenrani 23:06, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Birth date

Some foreign language wikipedias (including the Arabic one) claim he was born in 1962 and Not 1963 like stated now. can anyone verify the correct information? Dberliner 18:19, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] incarceration

"he was incarcerated for three years by Israeli authorities because of his continued role in leading the resistance movement"...somehow I'm guessing that's not the way the Israelis put it at the time...were there official charges against him in connection with any particular incident? Dsol 11:36, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Being a "moderate"...

Is he known to support the Hamas idea for a generation-long cease-fire? If so, it should probably be noted in the article. Zocky | picture popups 14:00, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Better photo would be good

See [1] or [2]--68.214.59.199 05:31, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

There's also this one. Feel free. I think you need to register an account in order to upload, though. El_C 05:38, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jumping the gun?

This article (and the current main page news box) says Haniya "is" the Prime Minister (actually I think the main page says, in news-speak present-tense, that he "succeeds" as PM but that amounts to the same thing.) Now, I am a little hazy on exactly how parliamentary systems work, but doesn't he actually have to present a government to the parliament (whatever it is called in this case) and have it approved, before he takes office as Prime Minister? To my understanding, all that has happened is that Hamas has designated him to be the Prime Minister and that the "president" has formally asked him to form a government. Those events mean that he will be Prime Minister, but he isn't yet. Am I incorrect? 6SJ7 14:41, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

You are right. He is not the PM, at least, yet. Please do not put wrong facts. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.132.3.7 (talk • contribs) 22:31, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

He is officially the Prime Minister-designate. El_C 07:36, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: being a moderate

A long-term ceasefire is what Hamas calls a "hudna." look up the article here on wikipedia; it may just mean that for non-muslim enemies, there can be a period of calm and quiet while the muslims are 'weak.'

Haniya seems like a pragmatist in comparison to other leaders because he knows what terms to avoid and what americans want to hear. He is rooted in Hamas' radical ideology and is not a moderate.

see also interview with Haniya with Washington post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/24/AR2006022402317_pf.html

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.249.117.74 (talk • contribs) 10:31, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ismail Haniyeh email address

can we add Ismail Haniyeh's email (removed) base on the email that was published in the Guardian? http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1743628,00.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.102.132 (talk • contribs) 13:01, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Not unless he signs himself up for a WP account and posts it on his user page (and even then, we'd probably have to ask permission). My email address can be found relatively easily with a quick internet search, but WP policy is such that it is not possible to publicly post my address without my consent. Incidentally, it may also be illegal, but I'm not sure if that's the case in the US state in which WP is based. --Nema Fakei 15:30, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

I do not understand why it cannot be mentioned in the article. Which Wikipedia policy prohibits it? It was published in one of the best-known newspapers in the world, apparently because Haniyeh himself mentioned it in the signature of his letter, and the newspaper put it on the Internet. In effect, Haniyeh has already given his consent. (And besides, the link appearing above is to the letter that contains his e-mail address, so the address is already linked-to from Wikipedia; the anon editor was just suggesting making the link more direct.) 6SJ7 04:39, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name of article

Seeing as noone can say what 'correct' transliteration of Arabic script is, shouldn't the article use the most common one? (i.e. Ismail Haniyeh) Joffeloff 21:42, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Why is this article not at Ismail Haniyeh?

Since he spells his name that way, why is the article at Ismail Haniya?- Folksong 06:16, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

I guess that makes three of us, and nobody voiced any objections so far. I'm changing it now. --Daniel575 | (talk) 13:09, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reason behind his arrests/assassination attempt

Took out the unfootnoted reference regarding his involvement in targeting Israeli civilians. Haniyeh is personally against these attacks and Israeli officials have conceded that they have no evidence of any such involvement. [SEE http://www.counterpunch.org/hass03172006.html]. His arrests were administrative detentions due to the fact he is affiliated with Hamas.

[edit] Elimination

This term is terribly draconian, something a cold hearted fascist would use with routine. Political killings are known as 'assassinations', not mere eliminations.

[edit] Moderate

Haniyeh has always struck me as one of the more moderate Hamas leaders. I noted that the Al Jazeera link points out that he has repeatedly said that Hamas could find some peace with Israel, but the Forbes link is cited with him using more militant language. The Forbes link is broken and unretrievable. The article should reflect his position according to the sources that work. MarkB2 15:27, 21 May 2007 (UTC)