Talk:Islamic funeral
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Let the template be at the top for standardization. --Striver 18:07, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Prolonged grief
I heard from a Muslim friend that a prolonged grief is to be avoided and you're expected to stay calm as not to distress the soul of a dead person. Where can this be found in credible Islamic texts? --211.24.155.43 16:17, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
- Check this page: Sahih Bukhari Volume 2, Book 23. --Doc sameer 03:38, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Women at the burial
What happend if women attend at the burial? ChristianB 23:52, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
This topic needs to be revisited. Some argue that it's not forbidden for women to attend the funeral procession. Someone needs to display this argument as well.
Refer to the following:
Imam Malik and some Hanafi scholars, and, according to one report from Ahmad, most of the scholars hold it permissible for women to visit graves. This is based on the following hadith from 'Aishah, "What should I say to them, O Messenger of Allah when visiting graves?" As mentioned above Abdallah ibn Abi Mulaikah is also reported to have said, "Once 'Aishah returned after visiting the graveyard. I asked, 'O Mother of the Believers, where have you been?' She said: 'I went out to visit the grave of my brother Abd ar-Rahman.' I asked her: 'Didn't the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, prohibit visiting graves?' She said, 'Yes, he did forbid visiting graves during the early days, but later on he ordered us to visit them'." This is reported by Al-Hakim and Al-Baihaqi, who also remarked that this hadith was narrated only by Bistam bin Muslim al-Basri. Adh-Dhahabi said that it is a sound hadith.
The purpose of visiting graves is to remember the Hereafter, which is something that both men and women need. Men are by no means more in need of this reminder than women. Some scholars disliked it for women to visit graves as they are less patient and too emotional. The Prophet, peace be upon him, said, "May Allah curse the women who are frequent visitors of the graves." (Reported by Ahmad, Ibn Majah, and Tirmidhi, who said that it is a sound hadith) Al-Qurtubi said: "The curse mentioned in this hadith applies only to those women who visit graves frequently. The reason for this curse lies perhaps in the fact that it involves infringement of the rights of the husband, and leads to adornment and exhibition of their beauty to strangers, and shouting, yelling, and other similar things." It may be said that, "If no such harm is feared from women visiting graves, then there is no valid reason for preventing them from visiting graves, for indeed remembrance of death is something that both men and women equally need." Commenting on Al-Qurtubi's view, Ash-Shawkani said, "This statement may form the basis for reconciling apparently contradictory hadith." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.83.181.113 (talk) 00:27, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Copyright violation?
Some of the wording in this article is extremely similar to the web page "Islamic Rituals at Death", http://www.understanding-islam.com/related/text.asp?type=question&qid=732 . That page is dated February 11, 2000, and carries the notice, "Copyright (c) 1999-2007 Understanding Islam, All rights reserved." Thus I suspect that some of the text of this article might be a copyright violation. I'm not taking any action right now, apart from raising this issue. --Jdlh | Talk 01:02, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
