Talk:Islamic astrology
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This article is very biased. All of the scholars cited have a Wahhabi/Salafi leaning. In addition, the hadith presented are not necessarily the definitive hadith on the topic, and a couple of them are considered weak hadith by many schools. In addition, many of the hadith and verses presented have had their meanings stretched and there is much interperetation on the part of the author. The author is obviously very studious and is obviously well versed in Salafi/Wahhabi thought. His mistake was presenting these views on Astrology as THE Islamic perspective on Astrology. Also astrology and fortunetelling were used interchangably. The author does not seem to have a clear grasp on what Astrology really is and how it is presented and used by certified astrologers. The type of "astrology" the author presents is the stereotype of astrology that certified astrologers and astrological scholars have aimed to dispel through education and research. The influence of celestial phenomena on people as studied by certified astrologists is no more an attempt to "Tell fortunes" or "See the unseen" as Psychologists who study seasonal affective disorder or the influence of tides over manic depressives. Please make the article more neutral and accurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chillinchillin (talk • contribs)
- I agree with the above statement. This article seems to Takfir folks who read the horoscopes in newspapers. Seems salafi'ist. --Irishpunktom\talk 16:57, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Proposed merge
Please discuss this at talk:Arab and Persian astrology#Proposed merge--Sefringle 01:56, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
- Merging involves slightly more than simply redirecting the page. —Ruud 19:35, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- Than move the content to Arab and Persian astrology.--Sefringle 20:54, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- If you want to redirect the article, then it is your responsibility to merge the content. —Ruud 20:59, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- The relevant (and sourced) parts are already in the article. I'm not going to move the unsourced content into that article.--Sefringle 21:00, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- What about that external link at the bottom? Why did you post an "information to be placed somewhere" on the other article's talk page. Do it good or don't do it at all. —Ruud 21:08, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- Wasn't sure where to place it, so I just put it on the talk page for someone else to find a good place.--Sefringle 21:16, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- Then why not let someone more knowledgeable on the subject perform the merge? Have you considered asking at Wikipedia:WikiProject Astrology? —Ruud 21:24, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- Wasn't sure where to place it, so I just put it on the talk page for someone else to find a good place.--Sefringle 21:16, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- What about that external link at the bottom? Why did you post an "information to be placed somewhere" on the other article's talk page. Do it good or don't do it at all. —Ruud 21:08, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- The relevant (and sourced) parts are already in the article. I'm not going to move the unsourced content into that article.--Sefringle 21:00, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- If you want to redirect the article, then it is your responsibility to merge the content. —Ruud 20:59, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- Than move the content to Arab and Persian astrology.--Sefringle 20:54, 20 May 2007 (UTC)