Talk:Islam in Canada

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Silly question, but the site says: "Greater Montreal's Muslim community neared 100,000 in 2001" and just below that, lists the Muslim community in all of Quebec at 57,200... for those to both be accurate, the small number would have to be earlier in the year than the other number, and then there needs to have been 10's of thousands of Muslim immigrants into Montreal that year... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.226.20.40 (talk) 03:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ali Sina

He deserves to be included in this article. He is an Iranian Canadian author of a book called Understanding Muhammad: A Psychobiography of Allah's Prophet, and a world-reknowned ex-muslim, especially noted for founding the popular website http://FaithFreedom.org where his many articles critical of Islam have been published, alongside articles by other authors. More information about him is available at the wikiarticle about his website faithfreedom.org. People say Ali Sina is not a notable personality, but that is false. He has been featured in an article on http://WorldNetDaily.com and a chapter in one of Ibn Warraq's books was written by him. There are other reasons to consider him notable, but I do not need to rehash every piece of evidence here. The fact is that he is at least as notable as a professor at a local university, which I understand is the measuring rod for comparison as to whether to include a person in a biographical article here at Wikipedia or not. Not only does Ali Sina deserve to be mentioned in this article on Islam in Canada, he deserves his own article on Wikipedia PERIOD.

His article seems to have been deleted on Wikipedia because he was not notable. See the deletion thing here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2006_December_5

That was half a year ago and was not concluded with consensus. There had been earlier attempts to discount Ali Sina's notability and they failed. There seems to be some arbitrariness about such decision making. The December decision led to what appears to me to be a compromise, posting an article about the website Ali Sina founded. Since then Ali Sina's profile has risen with the publication of his book that just came out the beginning of this month. Whether he is notable or not is a matter of opinion, and I do not accept the opinion that Ali Sina is not notable. (My apologies for not including four tylds at the end of my previous statement, above. I have remembered to add them this time. I look forward to your reply and please include the four tylds (~) at the end of your posting which will time/date/ID stamp your commentary.) 74.103.60.55 17:54, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


Regarding (cur) (last) 19:53, 14 June 2007 Itaqallah (Talk | contribs) (6,567 bytes) (rm tendentious advertising by anon Sina-fan), what is the problem? Itqallah, do you think I am advertising Ali Sina's book? Do you think I am soliciting donations to his website? I am not intentionally doing either. My goal is to include Ali Sina, Canadian anti-Islamist in this article in order to ensure that the article does not present the false POV that there is no resistance to the spread of Islam in Canada. It exists, whether you like it or not Itaqallah. I look forward to your reply. In the meantime, I will treat your removal of the reference to Ali Sina as invalid and put back what you took out (except the description of Sina's book, as a token good will gesture). 74.103.60.55 20:24, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

please provide a reliable source showing Ali Sina's relevance to the topic of "Islam in Canada." (i.e. that he is notable to the topic). that he claims he is a Canadian (or even is one) isn't enough to verify that he's actually related to the topic of Islam in Canada. ITAQALLAH 20:51, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Itaqallah, can you provide a RS for supporting all the other 50 names on this page? Ali Sina is in Canada and is related to Islam and Canada and there is no requirement of a "RS" that proves that link. Otherwise lets apply the same policies to everyone else including Bilal Phillips. Lets be consistent in applying policies. --Matt57 (talk•contribs) 22:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
yes, we can be consistent and remove the whole list of people, as many of them have nothing to do with Islam in Canada. ITAQALLAH 10:31, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rewording

This sentence "the two largest Muslim communities in the Vancouver were Middle Eastern (>50,000) and Iranian (>30,000)" needs rewording. Iran is a Middle-Eastern country. Either it should be stated communities were Arabs and Iranians.. or something like that. The sentence right now is sorta flawed. Its like saying 70,000 Europeans and 10,000 French. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.228.125.210 (talk) 14:12, 31 May 2008 (UTC)