Talk:Ishtar Gate
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I am curious to find where other pieces ended up. I found one mention that a lion went to a museum in Philadelphia. Rmhermen 21:06, Apr 7, 2004 (UTC)
- I found that, besides Berlin, only Istanbul and Detroit got dragons. The University of Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropolgy may be the other U.S. one -there website is still under construction but they have a large Iraq collection. Rmhermen 21:58, Apr 20, 2004 (UTC)
What the hell do soldiers have to do with the Ishtar gate? I took the photo down because of its irrelevance.
- definitely it is irrelevant, but some funny twat had to put it back, time to get rid of it again --Arsenio 18:14, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
From Babylon:
- US forces were criticised for building a helipad on ancient Babylonian ruins following the 2003 invasion of Iraq, under the command of General James Conway of the First Marine Expeditionary Force. The vibrations from helicopter landings led a nearby Babylonian structure to collapse.[1]
- US forces have occupied the site for some time and have caused damage to the archaeological record. In a report of the British Museum's Near East department, Dr. John Curtis describes how parts of the archaeological site were levelled to create a landing area for helicopters, and parking lots for heavy vehicles. Curtis wrote that the occupation forces
- "caused substantial damage to the Ishtar Gate, one of the most famous monuments from antiquity [...] US military vehicles crushed 2,600-year-old brick pavements, archaeological fragments were scattered across the site, more than 12 trenches were driven into ancient deposits and military earth-moving projects contaminated the site for future generations of scientists [...] Add to all that the damage caused to nine of the moulded brick figures of dragons in the Ishtar Gate by people trying to remove the bricks from the wall."
- The head of the Iraqi State Board for Heritage and Antiquities, Donny George, said that the "mess will take decades to sort out". Colonel Coleman issued an apology for the damage done by his troops in April 2006, however at the same time arguing that they were protecting the site from looters.
Do we want to include anything on this in Ishtar Gate? - 201.51.231.141 02:51, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Assyrian?
Why is the name being written in Assyrian Neo-Aramaic only? If the gate was constructed in 575 BCE, then wasn't the Late Babylonian stage of the Akkadian language (lišānum akkadītum), written in cuneiform script instead of in the Syriac alphabet, still being spoken? Both languages are commonly called "Assyrian", but if we're saying Nebuchadnezzar II built the gate then can we be sure Aramaic had fully taken over Akkadian in only 25 years since the Chaldean invasion? ----Rcgy 20:58, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
- Well, the Babylonians also spoke Aramaic at the time. Babylonians and Assyrians were the same people anyway, so what's the problem? — EliasAlucard|Talk 09:36 04 Sept, 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Walls of Babylon
The Ishtar Gate was NOT one of the Seven Wonders. Its just a part of the Walls of Babylon, which were one of the Seven Wonders. Read the german version about the Walls of Babylon (Stadtmauern von Babylon). You can find much more informations about this topic. Maybe someone can translate it into English. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.47.4.124 (talk) 04:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Observation:
The excellent image has allowed me to notice something upon which I have never before seen comments. The "dragon" has the hind legs of a raptor, the forelegs of a feline, the head and hide of a reptile, and a tufted tail like a lion. It also appears to be "snorting out the breath of the terrible flame of bright fire" as its forked serpent tongue flicks. It would seem that the beast is less a 'dragon' and more a 'chimera,' in accord with the Homeric description.131.81.200.158 (talk) 15:39, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
