Talk:Ishpatina Ridge
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[edit] Temagami
The Ishpatina Ridge is not within the municipal boundaries of Temagami; it isn't even in the same census division as Temagami is. Bearcat (talk) 20:25, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- Lady Evelyn-Smoothwater Provincial Park is owned by Temagami meaning anything within the park is part of Temagami. If you do a google search for "Ishpatina Ridge Temagami" you will find lots. I live in Temagami and it's considered to be part of the Temagami wilderness area. Therefore it is part of Temagami. See here, here, here, here and here, which say both Maple Mountain and Ishpatina Ridge stretch to the very edge of Temagami's rugged backcountry. Black Tusk 09:23, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] officially gazetted as Ishpatina Peak
Hello, I would like to delete this line. The reference provided mentions "Ishpatina Peak", but does not mention it as being the official gazetted name. My Google search using this term only returned 6 results, most of which sounded like they had come from a single source (possibly from this article!). Additionally, a check of the Geographical Names Board of Canada (the people who give geographical features their official names in Canada) returns only one result for a query of Ishpatina: "Ishpatina Ridge". I have not seen the name "Ishpatina Peak" on any map, ever. Perhaps a compromise would be to mention that the highest point on the ridge is sometimes (rarely?) called Ishpatina Peak. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.50.175.140 (talk) 14:51, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- Look in the top-right corner of the webpage here and it says: Name Status: Official. Black Tusk 00:11, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Fair enough, it does say that. But do you think that Bivouac.com is a more reputable source than the Canadian Government? In my opinion, "official" denotes something weightier than user generated content (which is what Bivouac is, if I am not mistaken). Why not type Ishpatina into the Geographical Names Board of Canada's website here:
http://gnss.nrcan.gc.ca/gnss-srt/searchName.jsp?language=en
"Ishpatina Peak" is not a name recognized by the Canadian government. In addition, a Google Book search for "Ishpatina Ridge" returns 16 returns, while "Ishpatina Peak" returns 0.
The thesis here is two-fold: Ishpatina Peak is not the official name, and is so rarely used that it doesn't deserve mentioning in the article.
For all we know, the author who added that information to Bivouac could be the same person that originally added the information to Wikipedia. Sadly, the Bivouac article doesn't appear to provide references.
If one agrees that the Canadian government has a greater say over what its geographic features are officially named than a few anonymously authored websites, then it's not possible for anyone to dispute these edits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.252.206.116 (talk) 23:03, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry, but the name bit you deleted reads as WP:OR; Wikipedia does not publish original research (OR) or original thought. I have added it back to the article. There's also some mountains called "unnamed peaks" by the Canadian government that are actually not unnamed so the Canadian government can be wrong as well. Ishpatina Peak is the name for the highest point of the Ishpatina Ridge, see here. There are many mountains/hills in Canada that use the unofficial name. For example, Fairweather Mountain officially is generally referred to as Mount Fairweather, and as far as I know the redirects work that way in that case; there are others; Cheam Peak/Mount Cheam, Dickson Peak/Mount Dickson, Silverthrone Mountain/Mount Silverthrone and I could go on. Black Tusk 23:56, April 13 2008 (UTC)
