Talk:Isabel Martínez de Perón
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[edit] Naming and coup
Two things:
- Her official name was "María Estela Martínez de Perón", not Isabel.
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- Yes, that's right, but it is common in Wikipedia to name person articles by the most familiar name, rather than by the technically true one. --Darmol June 21, 2006
- The coup that deposed Isabel was not altogether bloodless. The atmosphere of violence in Argentina was pretty well established, and the Junta proceeded to kill and "disappear" thousands in the months ahead.
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- The coup in itself was bloodless. Compare with the Chilean coup against Allende. The government house was bombed, Allende committed suicide and several of his followers were executed on the coup day. The deaths that followed afterwards the Argentine coup were a result of the nature of the regime, not the nature of the coup. --Darmol June 21, 2006
Juan Peron met for the first time with "Isabelita" during his exile in Panama, not Paraguay. Paraguay was the first country in the list; then, Panama, Nicaragua, and finally Spain.
Can someone provide the date of their first meeting? Also, is it really true that Peron was barred from having a church wedding for being a double widower? I thought the Catholic Church only barred divorced persons with living spouses from remarrying in the church.--Chris 23:09, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps info concerning Isabela's current activities should be added?
[edit] world's first female president?
Was she really the world's first female president? In Sri Lanka Bandaranaike's widow, Sirimavo Bandaranaike, lead the SLFP to power and become in 1960 the world's first elected female head of government. --62.6.139.10 12:31, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
- Yes. Mrs B was only the PM -- ie, head of government, not head of state. So, Isabel Perón was the world's first woman president (not the first female head of state, of course, because of centuries of crowned heads), but only by default, rising up from the VP's job. The world's first democratically elected female head of state was Vigdís Finnbogadóttir in 1980. I think that's how it goes. –Hajor 14:34, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
- You'd think Isabel would be more famous than she is because of this fact. It seems pretty significant. I recall reading a while back that some man was working on making a musical of her life, but I haven't heard anything about it since. -- Andrew Parodi 08:43, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
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- I sincerely hope nobody does a musical honoring her, she was arguably one of the worst presidents of our history, her term prompting the military to replace her and establish the Proceso de Reorganización Nacional and the Dirty War
- I agree. She was not a good president and she should've never run. And there's hardly anything about her that seems remotely interesting enough to be made into a musical. However, that hasn't stopped this guy:
- I sincerely hope nobody does a musical honoring her, she was arguably one of the worst presidents of our history, her term prompting the military to replace her and establish the Proceso de Reorganización Nacional and the Dirty War
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- And he made this guide about her:
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- Andrew Parodi 12:14, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Profession
Is it necessary or appropriate to list her profession as "dancer"? She is famous for being a policitian (or wife of one) not a dancer. Perhaps, if people want to mention her as a dancer, it should be inserted as "former profession". Ronald Reagan's profession is not listed as "actor".... I propose a change to list "politician" as her profession. --Siofra 21 June 2006
- Well, the "profession" field -I was the one who added it in the box- refers to the profession previous to involvement in politics. In the presidents who had a degree, profession can be "Lawyer", "Engineer", "Physician", etc., but in the presidents who did not study a career, the profession is the job the person was known for before pursuing a political career. --Darmol June 21, 2006
If you look at the Ronald Reagan article, his profession is not listed at all. Nor is Margaret Thatcher's (or Harold Wilson's, or a great number of politicians that I've done a quick scan on). I do not believe that it's appropriate to list her profession in the main box as "dancer". If you feel there is a need to mention it (and perhaps there is a need), then I think it's best put into the body of the article. --Siofra 22 Aug 2006
I agree, it is silly for the profession status to be there. If it remains then be impartial and put it for Reagan there and Vaclev Havel who was a writer.
I agree that it is not appropriate for this article unless it is commonly done on all politicians' articles.--Gloriamarie 22:56, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Current Status?
Does anyone know how she is doing right now? Any activities or anything? Might be significant to put into this page. Arbiteroftruth 06:24, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
she is involved in some crimes commited by the triple A during the 70's, and bein under judgement in Spain —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.139.95.13 (talk) 20:15, 23 May 2008 (UTC)