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[edit] RE:Arc Reactor

I don't have the time to completely rewrite the section on the arc reactor but the way it equates GigaJoules with GigaWatts is in error the 3 GJ rating given to the arc reactor refers to storage capacity not Maximum Power Output as described by the section currently. A reactor with a 3GJ capacity could provide 0.03 Watts for 3750years (50 lifespans) or just over 50kW (67 horsepower) for 15 minutes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.140.22.164 (talk) 00:51, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

According to the recent movie the arc reactor (big one) runs on: Palladium Gas Something Hexafluoride -Sincerely, Some idiot

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.62.110.141 (talk) 07:00, 11 May 2008 (UTC)


I didn't know if I should post this on the article or here, but there is one common error that has crept up in the last couple of years, changing Models to Marks. Models as documented in the Iron Manual, 1993, was for entirely different armors and marks were the variations within that Model. I have this documented on my website http://ironmanarmor.com under weapons section click each armor for a detailled showing of each armor from the comics. Here is a compiled list I did for Comicboards/Ironman board and Marvel's Iron Man board.

Thank you, Mitch T. (posts as Irn12)

The list:

TOS is Tales of Suspense, IM is Iron Man.

Model I, Mark I, TOS #39, Original Grey Armor, transistors and magnets powered the armor. Jumps

Model I, Mark II, TOS #40, Grey Armor with Kilt, powered skates 60mph, able to jam electronic devices.

Model I, Mark III, TOS #40, Gold Armor, also seen in Avengers #1-2, Holographic Projection, able to push 10 tons, Telescoping sledge hammer. Flying short distances.

Model II, Mark I, TOS #48-52, Proto-Classic Armor with flex metal, lighter weight.

Model II, Mark II, TOS #53, also seen in Avengers #3, fly at 30,000ft Hand Repulsors, powerful magetic repulsion, not built into the armor, could be removed.

Model II, Mark III, TOS #54-55, Rivet Armor and in Avengers #6

Model III, Mark I, TOS #56-65, Pre-Classic Armor

Model IV, Mark I, TOS #66-IM #200 Classic Armor IM #191 another Grey Armor was built aka the Rehab Armor

Space Armors Model V, Mark I, IM #142 Space armor, 1st to reach escape velocity on its own. Mark II, IM #278 2nd Space armor used in the Kree/Skrull War, Mark III, Bad Blood #4, 3rd Space armor, Silver and Red, during the Vol. #3 Iron Man series. Mark IV, Vol. #3 IM #71 aka Ablative Armor. Mark V, Vol #3 IM #83, Heavy Gravitational Armor.

Stealth Armors Model VI, Mark I, IM #152 the 1st Stealth Armor. Mark II, IM #229 2nd Stealth Armor. Mark III, Blank Panter #44, during Vol. #3 of IM.

Hydro Armor Model VII, Mark I, IM #218, the Hydro Armor for deep sea, underwater repulsors and unibeam, escape suit, Ink Smoke Screen, Sonar, Electric Shocks.

Special Note: Gaurdsman armor created by Stark, seen in IM #43 and Mandroid armor seen during the Silver Centurion Armor was also developed by Stark.

Model VIII, Mark I, The Silver Centurion Armor IM #200.

Model IX, Mark I, The Neo Classic Armor (New Red and Gold armor) IM #231. Later Mark II and III added a different chest plate and larger boot jets.

Model X, Mark II, The NTU armor IM #290, but was developed and a form used earlier

Model XI, Mark I, War Machine, IM #281, no chest beam, Mark II with chest beam given to James Rhodes to use as War Machine.

Model XII, Mark I, IM #300 my all time favorite armor, the Modular Armor. Tony rescues the Iron Legion from Ultimo! Mark II, IM #304, the Hulk Buster Armor rated at 175 tons, fights the Hulk in #305.

Classified Note: Tony wears the Crimson Dynamo armor Model VI to defeat the Titanium Man in IM #317.

Model XIII, Mark I, The Gauntlet Armor or Crossing Armor IM #323.

Model XIV XV, XVI Goes through the Arctic Armor, the Retro Armor and the Teen Tony armors.

Model XVII, Mark I, The Prometheus Armor or Stove Pipe Armor, IM Vol 2. #1 Model XVIII, Mark I, Iron Man Vol. 3, #1 Chen Armor

Model XIX, Mark I, The Safe Armor Prototype, Fantastic Four Vol 3. #15 and IM vol. 3 #14. Mark II, #15, vol 3, IM, the Safe Armor, also seen in Contest of Champions II.

Back to the classic armor in vol 3, #33-41.

Model XX, Mark I, The Skin Armor or Udder Armor IM vol 3. #42 prototype (in progress) Mark II, finished #44, IM vol. 3. Mark III, refined IM #50, vol. 3.

Special Note: Revealed Stark created a prototype exoskeleton type armor for the military in vol. 3 #50.

Model XXI, Mark I, IM vol 3. #51, Tin Man Armor with cords on legs Mark II, IM Vol 3. #62, smooth legs.

Model XXII, Mark I, Thor Buster Armor, IM vol. 3. #64

Model XXIII, Mark I, IM vol 3. #73, Sometimes referred to as the Department of Defense armor. Mark II, been refining since created, see cover IM #80, vol. 3.

68.103.179.125 19:35, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Iron Man's armours seem to be getting closer and closer to what the Guyver can do...appear anywhere...back up the mind, take control, etc


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Yes, I know this needs cleanup -- I did just start the thing, I know it needs a lot of work. Dr Archeville 18:54, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I usually frown on articles like this, but this is a special case since Iron Man's powers and appearances have changed (sometimes radically) with each new armor. Plus, it's a nice way of tracking down certain Iron Man story arcs without leaving the encyclopedic format. Good work so far. Wilfredo Martinez 14:05, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, such was my entire reasoning for starting this article. Still needs a good deal, though, but so do a lot of articles. Dr Archeville 14:51, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] pics

It's just begging for some. CovenantD 17:34, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Got any idea where we can find some useable images for it? Dr Archeville 18:51, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

You can easily find them with Google Advanced Image Search. Comic book covers that feature Iron Man in each of them would be the best fair-use ones. Failing that, comic book panel images can be used (but should be clearly identified by issue, pge and panel.) I suggest we stick only to those that REALLY need to be shown, however- the Gold Armor is the same as the Grey armor, other than color, for example. Wilfredo Martinez 14:02, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

no the gold also added the kilt. all armors worthy of paragraphs need a freaking pic!76.226.125.152 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 20:46, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Title

Shouldn't this article's title be some variation of "List of..."? --InShaneee 00:13, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

It's not all that list-y. List articles are a lot more listy. --Chris Griswold 00:48, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm wondering if it should be "Iron Man's armor" or "Iron Man's armors". He's got more than one suit (dozens, as recentty shown in a fight against Graviton); he's not constantly modifiying the same suit, he's building new ones. Dr Archeville 16:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm in favour of "Iron Man's armors" for the above reason - in fact, that's where I moved it to originally but someone moved it one step further. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 16:28, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
But armor is a mass noun so the 's' just looks weird. You can't have 'an armor', really, can you? Morwen - Talk
Is it a mass noun? One suit of armor, two suits of armor... hunh, I suppose it is. Dr Archeville 18:08, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ablative = Ultimate

Is it just me or is that his new ablative armor looks heavily inspired by his Ultimate version? I would have thought that even though the Ultimates is incredibly popular they wouldn't bother trying to change him towards the very popular modern version.

[edit] NTU-150 Telepresence Armor (or "post War Machine" armor)

I believe that the first apperance of this armor is Iron Man vol. 1 #290, complete with its own holofoil cover. (Also of note in this issue is Tony Stark's return from the "dead" -- and James "War Machine" Rhodes's response to the news.) -- Cybertronian 05:14, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hollows of his bones... =

... Tony Stark has hollow bones? Like Warren Worthington III? Why?

  • Human bones are hollow, however they generally carry bone marrow on their interior. -- Cybertronian 05:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stark Armor (merge)

I say merge just due to the shortness of that article. Also is this the same armor that is used by Spider Man during Civil War? If it is then it should be merged with Spider-man's costume article.Phoenix741 18:04, 15 November 2006 (UTC)


Perhaps a section for armors built for others: Spidey's suit, the Guardsman, Cap's exoskeleton etc.Kokushishin 11:32, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I would be ok with thatPhoenix741 18:19, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I vote for deletion; the article Spider-Man's powers and equipment already has a quite thorough section on the so-called "Stark Armor" here. -- Pennyforth 18:26, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

  • So it is the same armor. Ok i am going to be radical and delete it.

Phoenix741 01:58, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

As I see you've noticed, Phoenix, only admins can delete an article. I've marked it for deletion to bring it to the admins' attention, noting the reason as "duplicates information from Spider-Man's powers and equipment. -- Pennyforth 21:19, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Yea.... I feel like an idiot, TYPhoenix741 00:16, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

For the record, the Stark Armor article has apparently been deleted, and searches and links now redirect to the pertinent section in Spider-Man's powers and equipment. - Pennyforth 00:06, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Assessed Importance

Article's subject is of Low importance for being trivial. --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 04:20, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] In Universe

This article is almost entirely In Universe content with no real world content to balance. as such, we should discuss revision or a merge back to the man character article. Such holistic listing is a trivia case, not encyclopedic. ThuranX (talk) 20:50, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, this annoys me too and I am attempting to remedy it. Behold Arc Reactor, which is most definitely not written in an in-universe style. Beerslurpy (talk) 02:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

From the movie, we can see that the arc reactor obviously has these few characteristics:

1) It uses palladium as a core ingredient 2) The large version obviously has plasma arcing and circulating within it 3) Stark assembled it in a cave with items scavenged from missiles, which would include warhead components

Therefore, it would be reasonable to assume that the arc reactor is a plasma-based power source, and quite likely uses the process of nuclear fusion (which is one of the things that palladium can help achieve). Yes, the earlier articles weren't in-universe but there were some interesting inputs on how a hypothetical "arc reactor" works. Perhaps this should be spun-off into another article, "Iron Man's Power Sources" since we have normal batteries, beta-ray generators, solar collectors, heat inductive field generators, etc.

rpf2019 (talk) 10:45, 8 May 2008 (GMT+8)

[edit] Hypervelocity

I believe the armor wasnt built for the supercavitation thing, but Tony 2.0 opened the armor letting out air. Did i get this wrong when reading? Psilorder (talk) 21:30, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

It *was* built for supercavitation, with a purpose-built supercavitation spike built into the back of the armor. rpf2019 10:39, 8 May 2008 (GMT+8)

[edit] Vandalism

Some jackass messed with the Film Version description and put in a bunch of childish attempts at offensiveness. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.209.131.115 (talk) 03:08, 10 May 2008 (UTC)