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[edit] Relationship

Regarding the supposed relationship between the Chairman of the original and American versions of Iron Chef, obituaries from the Honolulu Star-Bulletin (Reprinted here), and statements apparently made by Dacascos to one of his fanclubs, have established the fact that the two have no actual relation in real life. Dacascos's mother didn't have any brothers whatsoever to begin with. The confusion here almost certainly comes from the non-realization that Chairman Kaga is a fictional character. --Mukashi 06:17, 2005 Jun 11 (UTC)

[edit] Winning

What happens if a challenger wins? Does he/she replace the Iron Chef challenged? This should be included in the article.--Linklewtt 03:12, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

You're joking, right? Lambertman 03:19, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
It's a legitimate question, on many shows the winning challenger returns as a champion until he is defeated. Jeopardy! works this way, and a famous historical example would be the 1950s quiz show Twenty One.
But to answer the question, no, the challenger does not become the new Iron Chef. The Iron Chefs are appointed (supposedly, in the fiction of the show, by the Chairman) and remain Iron Chefs until they decide to retire. Pimlottc 15:33, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
This brings up a good question, though; does a winning challenger get anything? I know there's no material prizes on the show itself; the original promised "the people's ovation and fame forever", but I'm not familiar enough with this show to remember if there's a similar spiel at the beginning of this one.
They could get a prize outside the show though; some sort of bonus clause in their contract to appear on the show, perhaps. That is, assuming they get compensated for appearing on the show, which I assume they would. Pimlottc 15:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
I watch this show all the time and i am a fan of it, and as for material goods, no. But, at the beginning they will show a screen (as they always do) with a picture of the iron chef and the challenger, and it says their years of experience, their type of cooking (ex. southwestrn), and their record (wins-ties-losses). so instead of saying "1st battle" they will change it to 1-0-0 (or what ever their record be) EvilHom3r 11:36, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Format Reorg

The Format section should be reorganized along the following lines:

  • Remove all references to Iron Chef and Iron Chef: USA
  • Add a sub-section to History with comparisons between the various versions of the show.

This would reudce confusing nature of the Format section for readers unfamiliar with the various verisons of the show and their rules. As it reads now, even I'm confused, and I've been watching Iron Chef shows for years. -Harmil 12:24, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Actually, I think most of the references to Iron Chef and Iron Chef: USA need to be removed. While it's important to compare the shows, it seems like that's all that is being done here. Doesn't read too well, if you ask me. Perhaps a new section is in order that can address the differences between the shows? cpritchett42 05:27, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Hmm, do you think it worth noting that the combatants are only required to at least present a template for the five meals required of them and not necessarily prepare 4 plates of each meal? As I remember in the original Iron Chef, they really had to prepare four plates each. This does not seem to be a requirement in ICA. --Destron Commander 13:11, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CRITICISM

The criticism in the opening paragraph is overly extensive, and IMHO sounds like the work of a slightly overenthusiastic fan. I don't think I've heard most of those points ever brought up as contention. Some editing is in order, perhaps? Lambertman 16:14, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not so secret ingredients?

How do they prepare all other ingredients? Say if I need some oranges and they don't have them, what should I do? Some cooks may need a special breed of chicken or a particular brand of olive oil, how do they get the materials if they don't have them? -- Toytoy 15:54, July 14, 2005 (UTC)

On the special that aired before the "Battle of the Masters", they showed a staff of food buyers going off to purchase things that each chef requested be in the common pantry. So, the chefs prepare a list before the battle of what they want, and the production crew finds it. Gentgeen 17:32, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Records

Does anyone have the 5 Iron Chef's winning records??

See List of result statistics on Iron Chef America Pimlottc 16:16, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fan site

Does anyone know of an Iron Chef America fan site? Feb 21 2006

[edit] Challengers

A section with the names and descriptions of at least some prominent challengers such as Michael Symon needs to be added.

[edit] where is kitchen stadium?

Where is Kitchen Stadium? It would be a useful addition to the article... Atlanta? -- Joebeone (Talk) 04:35, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

The current article has a contradiction; The history section says the regular series is taped in L.A. and Battle was taped in New York, while the Kitchen Station section says the stadium is located in L.A. Which is it? Pimlottc 05:06, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spoilers

There's a number of spoilers in the article, where the result of matches is given away. In most cases, it really isn't necessary to mention who won a battle, but it's mentioned in passing anyway. We shouldn't give away the result when possible. Pimlottc 04:45, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

And furthermore, since there is a Iron Chef America stats article with all the complete details, the victors can be omitted from the main article while still available for those interested. Pimlottc 05:09, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recipe and plate template

From watching the show, one can see that the Iron Chef and the challenger chef seem to only need to prepare at least one plate of each meal. It's like they only need to prepare a template. On the original Iron Chef, they really had to prepare four plates of each meal. Do anyone here think it's worth mentioning? --Destron Commander 14:50, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I've added newly revealed info about how they prepare the full number of plates after the filming has ended. (Biochemike 06:31, 20 March 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Flay vs. Morimoto

I have updated the section about the battle and rematch between these two. The info comes from the recently aired Chefography of Flay. The idea that he demanded the rematch is not true (quite the opposite is true). Nor is there any mention of his spicy food being the reason he may have won the rematch... this seems too opinionated to me. The refereneces to the injuries he suffered are important enough to be mentioned I believe and I think that is a revelation first admitted in the Chefography. (Biochemike 14:51, 20 March 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Mario Batali Quitting?

I read a New York Post article yesterday, and it said Food Network did not renew his show Molto Mario. In return, Mario Batali is going to quit Iron Chef America. I tried to verify it using google, but I didn't find anything. I did find a website that denied the claim. http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/ny-etmario0905,0,2887102.story


RuneWiki777 19:39, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

That's what The Next Iron Chef is determining.

According to the Mario Batali article, at last note Food Network said he would still be on ICA. However, his being noticeably absent from the season finale makes em think that may no longer be true. Collectonian (talk) 23:01, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I fixed Bonecrusher's name.

I remembered when he was on they said they never had a chef with just one word name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rouge2 (talk • contribs) 04:10, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] No References

Is anyone else bothered by the section heading "References" which has nothing under it? Pafufta816 (talk) 07:49, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Mildly, but only because that means the article has no references, which should be rectified (hence it being tagged). It will be fixed in a moment, though, as it appears there were three references, just not properly tagged as such. Collectonian (talk) 09:13, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Only Three Iron Chefs?

The first airing of Michael Symon as an Iron Chef did not have the traditional opening in which Alton introduces all the Iron Chefs. During the competition, you can see the pictures of the Iron Chefs in the back of the room. The only chefs pictured were Flay, Cora and Symon. Looks like Batali and Morimoto were no longer there. It has been rumored that Bataili had quit Iron Chef, but Morimoto's absence was somewhat of a surprise. Anybody able to confirm this? Dmine45 (talk) 12:15, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

It is possible Batalli is gone, though previous reports stated that he would stay on the show. There is no word or rumor that Morimoto is leaving, so may have just been that there wasn't a shot with his picture on it. Food Network's page still lists all of them, though. Collectonian (talk) 14:37, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Just because their bio is still listed on the Food Network page doesn't mean they're still there. Often times because these shows are rerun ad nauseum forever that their bios will stay on the website even though they no longer produce new shows. Sister channel HGTV is famous for this.Dmine45 (talk) 10:53, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
It also doesn't mean they have both been removed, though, especially since that was also a special episode. It would be better to wait for either a news release starting that Batali is indeed gone (and especially Morimoto), or for a regular episode before either is marked as retired from the article. Collectonian (talk) 15:47, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
In an article on CNN Money that was published yesterday, the article states there are five Iron Chefs and names them all. No mention is made of Mario or Morimoto leaving. Collectonian (talk) 02:16, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
In tonight's new episode, all FIVE Iron Chefs were introduced, so no, neither is gone at this point. Collectonian (talk) 02:02, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I did see this as well. So they will continue to have 5 chefs at this time.Dmine45 16:32, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Kitchen Stadium has traditionally only had room for 3 portraits up front (ICUSA is an exception, but that was because they introduced four ICs from the start). In ICJ, this was the reason why IC Kobe was typically separately introduced at the side. It's also to note that a CG walkthrough of Kitchen Stadium in the mango/mixology battle has 4 portraits (however, Cora's portrait is to the right of Morimoto's, which is typically different from how they are arranged when both Morimoto's and Cora's portraits are up), and at that point each IC portrait has been excluded in at least one episode (at that point, the portraits are always in the order Flay, Morimoto, Cora, and Batali, and one portrait was excluded). Furthermore, logistics may be a factor (IIRC, there are only two episode tapings of ICA in a day), as normally they can't bring in all 5 ICs and have three sit there and do nothing (the big pan shot that's used when a challenger enters and greets the chairman is typically composited). In short, they're too cheap to put up all 5 portraits up at once. kelvSYC (talk) 20:21, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Contestants informed of possible secret ingredients the night before?

As with the Iron Chef Japan, are contestants advised the day before of three possibilities that the secret ingredient might be? Badagnani (talk) 05:42, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, they are given a list of possibilities for which they provide shopping lists (though don't know how long in advance that is). As per the article, most of the chefs can quickly figure out what the ingredient will be when they see what was bought, and they see the ingredient at least 15 minutes before the start of the battle for strategizing. Collectonian (talk) 05:48, 21 December 2007 (UTC)