Talk:Ireland West Airport Knock

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[edit] US Military funding

This is a ridicilous statement to put in a serious encyclopedia article about an international airport. The only evidence given is in a Christy Moore song? This is idle speculation at best. Why would the Americans spend money on knock when Shannon, which has a longer runway and better ILS is only 150 miles away? If it was a war situation wouldn't they just land there? I mean it hasn't stopped them before!

Christy Moore is a legend but this particular rumor should be moved to a page about the song and people can speculate to their hearts content about why he put the lyrics in or maybe the article about alcohol will be referencing Delirium Tremens. It's not fair on the people who work there to be accused of this. Rubensni 09:18, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

I am very unhappy with this stuff and I don't think it's worthy of wikipedia and have separated it out. Can someone give some corroborating info, maybe of why Christy Moore chose to include those lyrics? The indymedia article, which seems to have been the basis for the previous, IP only, addition, is not to my mind sufficient to retain it. Dowlingm 21:21, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

As of 24 October 2005, the airport has been officially remamed.


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[edit] Discussion

  • Support This article needs to be moved to Ireland West Airport Knock as the airport has been officially renamed. I tried to do this but someone has already created page with that name with a redirect back to here. --Damac 07:39, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Request fulfilled. Rob Church Talk 12:58, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] rumours with reference

I have removed the following rumours that appear to have no valid references:

  • "funded by the CIA" - all the article itself says is that "There appears to be little to substantiate these rumours"
  • "Knock may have been used for "rendition flights". The rumour is based on one reader letter suggesting a possibility to indymedia, hardly a WP:RS to me!

[edit] Lyrics

I have updated the link to point to the offical web site source http://www.christymoore.com/lyrics_tabs_detail.php?id=79 and updated the lyrics to reflect the offical source. MartinRe 14:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

I have found a link to the second version, have have included it, but am currently sticking with the lyrics from the offical site as the primary quote. Anyone know if there were multiple versions? MartinRe 13:23, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Is it possible the offical site is wrong? To be honest, the yankees one sounds more like his style, but unfortunately, unless without a source more reliable than the offical Christy Moore website it'll have to stay as the verifable primary version as per WP:V. Regards, MartinRe 13:42, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
'86 and Bush senior is plausible, I'd stick to the version as is, or maybe ask the song writer on his guestbook for the story behind those different versions. Maybe the yankee variant was a (self-) censored version for broadcasting (?) -- Omniplex 02:21, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
I've actually heard both versions, and both versions appear on Christy's CDs (I have them both here) - Ali-oops 09:26, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Knock_lyrics.jpg <-This is a picture of the the original lyrics. 40-second clips of both verisons (ogg format):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Knock-Original.ogg -- Knock song from The Time Has Come (1983)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Knock-LAP.ogg -- Knock song from Live at the Point (1994)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:29, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Y Done - Added fair use rationale to the the image description page. SempreVolando (talk) 22:19, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Airport Name vs AIP Name

First of all i didnt mean to reapply my previous text 'as was', i was adding a reference when my text was removed the first time. I take the point that my text is possibly non encyclopedic and maybe opinion based. But my point was added to counter the previous sentence: "However, as of January 2007 the Aeronautical Information Publication, including the aeronautical charts available at European Organisation for the Safety of Air Navigation still shows as Connaught Airport." This implies that the AIP name is 'wrong', that it 'should' change, and possibly will in the future. My point is that the name is intentionally different and is not going to change. Both are opinions, and maybe not for wikipedia. I suggest re-editing the sentence in question to: "As of January 2007 the Aeronautical Information Publication, including the aeronautical charts available at European Organisation for the Safety of Air Navigation shows Ireland West Airport Knock as Connaught Airport." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.198.130.54 (talk) 20:10, 15 January 2008 (UTC)