User talk:Inver471ness

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[edit] Welcome

Welcome!

Hello, Inver471ness, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes ~~~~; this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question and then place {{helpme}} before the question on your talk page. Again, welcome! Woodym555 16:19, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ranulf de Soulis

Regarding the article about Ranulf in your Sandbox, it still needs some work. Firstly it needs some Wikilinks to other articles. Secondly, the references need cleaning up. As a scholar, which referencing system do you use? Is it the harvard system? You may wish to read Citing sources and Wikipedia:Footnotes. Most people include the footnotes and references sections in one section. See Æthelberht of Kent or other Featured articles for an example of how some articles use this referencing style. I can help you implement it if you want. I can be reached on my Talk page if you need help.Woodym555 16:19, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

I have cleaned the article up for you. I have added in the citations so that they follow a uniform style. All the books/journals in the references section are in alphabetical order. I had to mix the footnotes and references but i think it works. I have also added in some wikilinks for you. Can you see how it works? I think it is ready for the mainspace now, do you want me to move it over for you?
Yes, you have done everything perfectly correctly :) My talk page is the best place to reach me for help and to thank me. Some users give out barnstars to say thankyou as well. As always, any questions can be left on my talk page. Woodym555 12:25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Crash course
References and footnotes. To add in a footnote use <ref>Reference here</ref>. If you use the reference more than once you can use the refname format: <refname="Michael Book">M'Michael, Feudal family, p34563</ref> for the first instance. For all other instances you would use <refname="Michael Book"/>. See Help:Footnotes and Wikipedia:Footnotes.
To wikilink you add square brackets around the appropriate article name. If you wanted to link Clan Hay you would do this :[[Clan Hay]] or [[Clan Hay|Hay]] to "pipe" the link. This would show up as Hay. See Piped links for more help.
Lord Liddesdale is linked in the nephews section at the moment and the Hay is linked in the early life section. I have moved the article to Ranulf I de Soules as this is the naming convention at the moment. Any questions, don't hesitate to ask. Woodym555 09:52, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clan Hay origin of the Clan

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Hey, I copied the article over to Clan Hay for you. If you were the only editor in your sandbox, then you can just copy and paste it over into the article. You should copy and paste from the raw version that you see when you are "editing User...", that way, all the links will go across. I have deleted the origin of the clan page for you.
If it is just a section of the page that you have ben editing in your sandbox then you don't "move" it using the tabs at the top, there is no way of integrating it within the old article. Bear in mind that this is the only time when you copy and paste. Sections = copy and paste, articles = move. Is this what you wanted? Woodym555 08:56, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Yep, just point them to the article. Just put a link into the Wikipedia:Copyrights section for the rules on re-using the text. Everything looks good to me. Regards Woodym555 18:46, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] re:Clan Hay-Origin of the Clan

Hi Inver471ness, as Woodym555 just said above the page has already deleted it, so no worries

Thanks

-- Inver471ness (talk) 17:35, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyrights

"This article was prepared by .... It is licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License and uses material from the Wikipedia article, Ranulf I de Soules" That seems to meet the GFDL in my eyes. As long as you are not worried about your name being public, then yes, by all means carry on. I cannot see any violation of Wikipedia's copyright as long as it mentions the GFDL and the article name. Regards. Woody (talk) 13:37, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I have shown you how to do two different styles of referencing in your sandbox. It depends on what you prefer as to which one you use, the "house" style is using <ref>Text, journal here</ref>. Using inline citations is more prevalent in academic works but isn't used much here in Featured articles (Wikipedia's best work).
In terms of the peer review request, the {{WPBiography}} template accepts |peer-review = yes and then follow the instructions found here. Hope that helps, regards. Woody (talk) 19:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
I have fixed the references for you now. You need to remember to have a section called references with {{reflist}} in it eg.
==References==
{{reflist}}
Then you need to add the references into the article with <ref> Hay, 1994, pp....</ref>.
In terms of the biography template, when you go to Talk:Ranulf I de Soules what do you see? You should see a banner that says "This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography...." When you open the edit window, you will see {{WPBiography|listas=de Soulis, Ranulf|class=Start|priority=}} If you want to open a peer-review you add |peer-review = yes to the template so: {{WPBiography|listas=de Soulis, Ranulf|class=Start|priority=|peer-review = yes}} Hope this helps. Regards, Woody (talk) 10:16, 6 June 2008 (UTC)