Talk:Intranet
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[edit] History of the Intranet
I looked to this page to get an idea of the history of the intranet concept but there was nothing here. When were intranets first "invented", who was the first person to use the word, etc etc. I don't know the answer to these questions but would be interested to hear from somebody who does. Wikikob 09:30, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
indeed Intranetusa 03:00, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
- I thought there was some history background recently, but my search back to late November indicates I'm mistaken. If you can find some information from a verifiable source, please update the article. David Spalding (☎ ✉ ✍) 18:04, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
The first public internet site was a chat room (Blog) called the "well" in March of 1986 where Greatful Dead fans could communicate. To truly understand the history of the internet you first must learn about the visionaries that developed it. To best learn about this go to http://www.pbs.org/opb/nerds2.0.1/ or watch the video "Nerds 2.0.1: A Brief History of the Internet" (1998) --A.Shabet -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.192.249.149 (talk • contribs) 12:04, January 27, 2007
- I believe you are referring to The Well, which was not initially either a web log (blog) or real-time chat room. It was a collection of discussion forums, a sort of super-BBS. Some detailed history of the origins of The Well can be found in Bruce Sterling's The Hacker Crackdown. Regardless, this is related to Intranet ... how? David Spalding (☎ ✉ ✍) 18:48, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "Requirement to Create a Intranet" section
With all due respect to the author, I think this section is almost useless. Especially the bits about TCP/IP, "installing user programs" (a web browser?), and "build a homepage in HTML" (which suggests the most primitive intranet imaginable). a&m Maybe it would be better as "Prerequisites for an Intranet"? Or alternatively as "typical approaches to intranets", highlighting the ways organisations can create an intranet (e.g. inhouse build, purchased specialist product, using groupware (like Lotus Notes). Silentz
- I tried to beef up this section. Would appreciate any comments Poweroid 20:50, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Need separete "Intranet (network)" vs "Intranet (website)"?
There are distinct mean from the network view and website view. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ? (talk • contribs) ?
indeed 129.2.227.119 02:59, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
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- No. This article can describe both.
- Please sign and date your posts. TIA.
- David Spalding (☎ ✉ ✍) 18:06, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Internet Protocols
Intranets are also being used as culture change platforms. For example, in IBM's "Jam" programme (like on wiki!), large numbers of employees could discuss key issues in online forums, and key ideas surfaced with the aid of text analysis tools.
[edit] Why the {{lowercase|title=intranet}}?
Why do we need this? This is just another word, like apple. Apple gets capitalised in its own Wikipedia article, and it is fine. I don't see any reason to keep this template call, and warn the user that the word is not usually capitalised.
Shall I remove it? Lgriot 16:32, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- Well if no-one opposes it, I'll just remove it then. Lgriot 18:00, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
195.195.239.151 15:54, 3 January 2007 (UTC)== Links all spam? ==
The external links all seem to be spam/advertising. Any reason to keep any of them? Eleuther 15:22, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
- Agreed, none of those were very relevant to the article, removed. Femto 19:42, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] naming conventions?
Are there any naming conventions for intranets? for example, if it's the intranet for company XYZ, would "Intra XYZ" or "XYZ Intranet" or "Inside XYZ" or whatever be appropriate? I realize you can name a site whatever you want, but maybe there is a popular convention that is especially clear or good.--Sonjaaa 18:40, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] When was the phrase first used?
I've just come upon an old web server stats which start in May 1995, and it's got the phrase 'internal start' to denote "intranet". I think I first heard some BT marketing person use it in the late 1990s, but I can't find any evidence. Anyone got a "coined date"? BRIANTIST (talk) 14:13, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
- I found the word "intranet" on a Newsgroup from 1984, although I have no idea what the author is talking about or referring to, or even if it's the same context as we use it today: [1]. Here's another post from the same year, which I'm pretty certain refers to exactly the meaning we're after: [2]. Hope this helps. FranksValli 06:27, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, there are a number of different versions of the history available and I cannot say which one is more correct than the other, but most commentators seem to agree that the term "intranet" was introduced around 1994. One version is that Steven L. Telleen coined the term while working at Amdahl. Here is how Dr. Telleen sees it:
"When I coined the term 'IntraNet' at Amdahl Corp. in the summer of 1994, it did have the connotation of an internal Web rather than just an internal Internet. In fact, the term we used internally before this was the too-cumbersome 'Enterprise-Wide Web.' So, while the ambiguity of "intranet" was apparent even back then, for lack of a better alternative, it caught on."
Quote found at: http://www.iorg.com/papers/iw/19981019-advisor.html Dstenmark (talk) 21:30, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Critical intranet research, anyone?
Intranets have become integrated part of almost every organisation’s information infrastructure. When intranets first were introduced a little more than a decade ago, they were hailed as the ultimate solution to almost any organisational issue; including anything from dissemination of management vision to integration of seemingly incompatible computer systems [1].
The twentieth century literature on intranet management unanimously – but often uncritically – recommended intranets to be effectively managed, not to be allowed to evolve in ad hoc manners, and to be standardised and formalised via enforced procedures and routines. Unless kept on a short leash, it was argued that the intranet would quickly degenerate and collapse. Consequently, many if not all intranets today are managed in a top-down fashion.
However, despite this tight governance, intranets appear to be heavily under-utilised and a quick web search reveals that there are plenty of texts on "why intranets fail" (and I'm not only referring to Luke Tredinnick's book[2]"). In my own intranet research, I have questioned the need for management control since I couldn’t see why corporate webs would need to be suppressed in order to work whereas the public web thrived much as a result of lack of ownership and control. I think it would be useful to add a section on this to this entry.
At this year’s AMCIS conference in Toronto, Canada, August 14-17, Dr. Brian Detlor and myself are chairing a mini-track on Critical Intranet Research where we encourage a more critical approach to intranet studies, where the taken-for-granted views on intranets, intranet management, and intranet usage are scrutinised and questioned. We would like dissensus and conflicts among organisational actors and academic commentators to be highlighted and discussed rather than swept under the carpet as too often has been the case.
Any thoughts on this?
Dstenmark (talk) 22:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
My AOL Instant Messenger screen name is intranet =P—Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.58.41.18 (talk • contribs) 05:25, 13 February 2008
[edit] References
- ^ Scott, J. E. (1998). "Organizational Knowledge and the Intranet", Decision Support System, Vol. 23, pp. 3-17.
- ^ Tredinnick, L. (2005). "Why Intranets Fail (and How to Fix Them)", Chandos Publishing: Oxford, ISBN 1843340933
[edit] INTRANET
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