Talk:Interstate 73
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Let it take out US 17, you have it going to Charleston.
Cleanup notes, Sept 2005. This has to be the worst Interstate article I've seen. Surely we can do better than this, folks. Mark in Virginia. 00:23, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] What's signed
Approved July 25, 1996 by AASHTO, I-81/I-581 to Charleston
Much information is from here.
Road | Status |
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US 220, I-581 to near NC 150 | future corridor signs (in NC at least); not freeway |
US 220-NC 68 connector | not built |
NC 68, near NC 150 to I-40 or I-840 | not built |
US 220, I-40/I-85 Business to near Ulah | FUTURE I-73; non-standard freeway |
US 220, near Ulah to near Candor | I-73 |
US 220, near Candor to Rockingham | future corridor signs; not built |
US 74, Rockingham to NC 38 | unclear; freeway but not connected |
NC 38-SC 38, US 74 to ? | not built |
[edit] Definitions
[edit] 1991
H.R.2950 (Public Law No: 102-240) SEC. 1105. HIGH PRIORITY CORRIDORS ON NATIONAL HIGHWAY SYSTEM.
(5) I-73/74 North-South Corridor from Charleston, South Carolina, through Winston-Salem, North Carolina, to Portsmouth, Ohio, to Cincinnati, Ohio, and Detroit, Michigan.
[edit] 1995
S.440 (Public Law No: 104-59) SEC. 332. HIGH PRIORITY CORRIDORS.
`(5)(A) I-73/74 North-South Corridor from Charleston, South Carolina, through Winston-Salem, North Carolina, to Portsmouth, Ohio, to Cincinnati, Ohio, to termini at Detroit, Michigan and Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan. The Sault Ste. Marie terminus shall be reached via a corridor connecting Adrian, Jackson, Lansing, Mount Pleasant, and Grayling, Michigan.
`(B)(i) In the Commonwealth of Virginia, the Corridor shall generally follow--
`(I) United States Route 220 from the Virginia-North Carolina border to I-581 south of Roanoke;
`(II) I-581 to I-81 in the vicinity of Roanoke;
`(III) I-81 to the proposed highway to demonstrate intelligent transportation systems authorized by item 29 of the table in section 1107(b) in the vicinity of Christiansburg to United States Route 460 in the vicinity of Blacksburg; and
`(IV) United States Route 460 to the West Virginia State line.
`(ii) In the States of West Virginia, Kentucky, and Ohio, the Corridor shall generally follow--
`(I) United States Route 460 from the West Virginia State line to United States Route 52 at Bluefield, West Virginia; and
`(II) United States Route 52 to United States Route 23 at Portsmouth, Ohio.
`(iii) In the States of North Carolina and South Carolina, the Corridor shall generally follow--
`(I) in the case of I-73--
`(aa) United States Route 220 from the Virginia State line to State Route 68 in the vicinity of Greensboro;
`(bb) State Route 68 to I-40;
`(cc) I-40 to United States Route 220 in Greensboro;
`(dd) United States Route 220 to United States Route 1 near Rockingham;
`(ee) United States Route 1 to the South Carolina State line; and
`(ff) South Carolina State line to Charleston, South Carolina; and
`(II) in the case of I-74--
`(aa) I-77 from Bluefield, West Virginia, to the junction of I-77 and the United States Route 52 connector in Surry County, North Carolina;
`(bb) the I-77/United States Route 52 connector to United States Route 52 south of Mount Airy, North Carolina;
`(cc) United States Route 52 to United States Route 311 in Winston-Salem, North Carolina;
`(dd) United States Route 311 to United States Route 220 in the vicinity of Randleman, North Carolina;
`(ee) United States Route 220 to United States Route 74 near Rockingham;
`(ff) United States Route 74 to United States Route 76 near Whiteville;
`(gg) United States Route 74/76 to the South Carolina State line in Brunswick County; and
`(hh) South Carolina State line to Charleston, South Carolina.';
[edit] 1998
H.R.2400 (Public Law No: 105-178) SEC. 1211. AMENDMENTS TO PRIOR SURFACE TRANSPORTATION LAWS.
(A) by striking paragraph (5)(B)(iii)(I)(ff) and inserting the following:
`(ff) South Carolina State line to the Myrtle Beach Conway region to Georgetown, South Carolina, including a connection to Andrews following the route 41 corridor and to Camden following the U.S. Route 521 corridor; and';
(B) by striking paragraph (5)(B)(iii)(II)(hh) and inserting the following:
`(hh) South Carolina State line to the Myrtle Beach Conway region to Georgetown, South Carolina.';
[edit] Strange
[1] and [2] shows it as a current Interstate all the way to present I-40 in Greensboro. That's not even part of the ultimate plan north of new I-40/I-85. And it shows future I-26 as a non-Interstate. --SPUI (T - C) 01:35, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
I don't trust that map. US 52 doesn't go along that stretch of road near Mount Airy. That's reserved for I-74. The first map looks like one of those "close enough" map jobs. --TinMan 01:09, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] I-73 in Michigan
The statement "I-73 is also not likely to be built in Michigan." may not be correct. There have been route studies done as to where to put the road between Toledo and Jackson. US-127 from Jackson to Lansing to Claire will be re-numbered to I-73. The current governor does not want to build new roads, just to spend the money on fixing current roads. A new governor may want to build the new I-73. 147.240.236.9 21:25, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Actually the issue regarding the new roads is that our interstate system is one of the oldest in the nation. And as such they needed repair and done better. A majority of the rebuilt freeways are being done with Cement pavement instead of asfault pavement. As such they should last much longer and require less work. The main issue is they want to keep up a good amount of repair work done every 5 years. Something around 10% of the roads or something. So work building new freeways will be limited to ones that are necessary to use the majority of the funding to fix the present ones. Some freeways I would like to see in the next 20 years or so in Michigan is I 65 extend to Mackinaw City using the freeways of US 31 and a modified route north of Ludington. I 67 using US 131 north to meet up with I 65. That would use a cosigned I 80-90 route to get it from South Bend to Elkhart. The interstate is this I 73 which as you said not that far off from being completed. Only a freeway section from North of Gary to Jackson will be required. Mihsfbstadium
[edit] This looks useful
[3] --SPUI (T - C) 02:11, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Theoretical Alignment
I'd like to create a map similar to what I have for I-86 East for the current and future path of I-73. I need some help in making sure I have the current theoretical alignment correct, as well as some help with the alignment in South Carolina. I've bolded the stuff I need clarification on.
- Alignment of I-73 from North to South
- In Michigan
- From Sault Ste Marie, following I-75 south to the junction with US 127 south of Grayling
- Continuing south on US-127 to Jackson
- East of Jackson, running concurrent with I-94/US-127 to exit 142 where US-127 splits off again south to the junction with US 223 north of Addison
- Continuing southeast on US-223 from near Addison to the junction with US 23 in Ottawa Lake
- Running concurrent with US-223/23 to the Michigan state line
- In Ohio
- From the Michigan state line, continuing south to the junction with I-475, running concurrent with US-23, where I suppose it would bypass the city of Toledo on the west and southwestern side, continue around the south side to the junction with I-75 and run concurrent with I-75 to the junction with US-20/23 where it would turn southeast
- From Toledo, continuing southeast on US-20/23 to near Woodville where it would turn south to follow US-23
- From Woodville, continuing south on US-23 to the junction with I-270 in Columbus
- From Columbus, running concurrent with I-270 around the north and east side of the city, east of Port Columbus Int'l Airport, crossing I-70 and continue around the south side of Columbus to where US-23 splits southward.
- From south of Columbus, following US-23 to Chillicothe where it would run concurrent with US-23/35/50 until US-23 branches off southward again.
- From Chillicothe, south on US-23 (SR 104) to the junction with US 52 in Portsmouth
- From Portsmouth, running east/southeastward on US 52, generally following the Ohio River to Chesapeake where it would cross the Ohio River to Huntington, West Virginia.
- In West Virginia
- From Huntington, following US-52/I-64 to south of Ceredo where US 52 branches from I-64 southward.
- From near Ceredo, southward on US 52 to north of Williamson at a junction with US 119
- From north of Williamson, running southward, concurrent with US-52 and US-119 to southeast of Williamson where US 52 branches eastward from US 119.
- From southeast of Willamson, following US 52 to east of Bluefield at the junction with US 460/19/21
- From Bluefield, at the junction with US 460, following US 460 across I-77 to the Virginia state line.
- In Virginia
- From the Virginia/WV state line, following US 460 to Christiansburg at the junction with I-81
- From Christiansburg, following I-81 north to the junction with I-581 in Roanoke
- From Roanoke, following I-581 south to the junction with US 220
- From south of Roanoke at the junction of I-581 and US 220, continuing south on US 220 to the North Carolina state line
- In North Carolina
- From the VA/NC state line, following US 220 south to the junction with NC-68 northeast of Stokesdale, North Carolina
- From northeast of Stokesdale at the junction of US 220 and NC-68, following NC-68 south to Airport Parkway and Joseph M Bryan Blvd. northwest of Greensboro
- From NW of Greensboro, following Joseph Bryan Blvd to Benjamin Parkway to Wendover Avenue to S Holden Road to a junction with I-40 SW of Greensboro
- From SW of Greensboro, following I-40 East to the junction with US-220
- From US 220 S of Greensboro, following US 220 south across I-85 to the currently designated part of I-73
- Following I-73 south to where it becomes US 220 again south of Candor
- From Candor, continuing south on US 220 to the junction with US 74 west of Rockingham
- From Rockingham, continuing east (SE) on US 74 to the junction with NC-38 S of Rockingham
- From S of Rockingham at the JCT of US 74 and NC-38, continuing south on NC-38 to the NC/SC state line
- In South Carolina
- NC-38 becomes SC-38, continuing south from the NC/SC state line on SC-38 to a new(?) junction with I-95 Southwest (?) of Exit 181 after splitting off independently on new road from SC-38(?). If anyone knows if there's actually a road alignment here, that'd be super
- From the new(?) junction with I-95, continuing independently southeastward across US 501 and US 76 to a junction with SC-22 north of Conway, South Carolina
- From north of Conway at the JCT of (future) I-73 and SC-22 continuing eastward on SC-22 across a JCT with SC-31 and to and ending at a junction with US 17 northeast of Myrtle Beach
- In Michigan
Any help is appreciated! Cheers! Stratosphere (T/C) 03:58, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Response for North Carolina
- Well, travling south along US 220, the future I-73 will NOT join NC 68 northeast of Stokesdale. Instead, a road project known as the "NC 68 Connector" will provide the necessary freeway link between the two routes. It will start at US 220 in Summerfield, NC near its intersection with NC 150 and travel in a southwesterly direction to connect with the end of the NC 68 freeway segment just south of Oak Ridge. This connector will prevent I-73 from going through downtown Stokesdale and Oak Ridge. This site will show a very helpful map on top: Duke.edu/I-73 Seg 4.
- There is an article for Joseph M Bryan Boulevard. The name "Airport Parkway" has been completely phased out. The entire road is now completely Bryan Boulevard.
- According to the current plan, I-73 will only share NC 68 for about 1 mile before darting back east to Bryan Boulevard where the future Interstate will exit to join the Greensboro Urban Loop south.
- Your comment: "Benjamin Parkway to Wendover Avenue to S Holden Road": these roads have nothing to do with I-73. The Urban Loop (this segment is currently under construction) will carry the Interstate all the way around Greensboro to the south to join US 220. However, the roads you mentioned may have interchanges with the future I-73. This PDF web file is EXTREMELY helpful. It shows all the planned exit ramps for the Urban Loop: Urban Loop Exits
- Your comment: "From SW of Greensboro, following I-40 East to the junction with US-220" is true. Remember, however, that this will be the new I-40, which is part of the Greensboro Urban Loop.
- Remember, I-73 will NOT follow the future named I-40 BUSINESS to US 220. A few maps erroneously show this.
- Interesting info: For approximately 1 mile, I-40, I-85, and I-73 will share the same piece of road south of Greensboro. This can be shown in detail at that exits PDF file.
- Everything from south of Greensboro to Rockingham is correct.
- I-74 will join I-73 around the US 220/US 311 interchange in Asheboro.
- A US 74 bypass has already been constructed to the south of Rockingham, bypassing Rockingham. Both I-74 and I-73 will will connect to this bypass. I-73 will split from the bypass south of Rockingham, to somewhat follow US 1. South of there to the SC line, the routing is up for grabs.
- I hope this helps you. --TinMan 04:34, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Map
I've created a map and thumbed it above. It looks like it should suffice, since at that scale it's hard to tell the minor changes that are indicated in TinMan's and my original post. I'll see if anyone has any comments about the alignment in the map before I put it up. Thanks, TinMan for your quick and thorough response to my question yesterday. Cheers. Stratosphere (T/C) 00:39, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
- That's close enough. It's zoomed out far enough that nobody would know the difference. --TinMan 02:11, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
- That's what I figured...all that work for nothin'! :P Stratosphere (T/C) 02:31, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Exit list
This comes from the I-74 list, since it's pointless to have a long overlap in both articles. Remove this section once the I-73 exit list is cleaned up. --NE2 12:22, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
|- |[[Asheboro, NC|Asheboro]] | |Pineview Street | |- | | |Spero Road | |- |rowspan=5|[[Asheboro, NC|Asheboro]] | |{{jct|state=NC|to1=to|US-Bus|220|dab1=Asheboro|name1=Vision Drive, North Fayetteville Street}} | |- | |Presnell Street | |- | |{{jct|state=NC|NC|42|city1=Asheboro}} | |- | |{{jct|state=NC|US|64|NC|49|city1=Lexington|city2=Charlotte|city3=Raleigh}} | |- | |McDowell Road | |- | |51 |{{jct|state=NC|US-Bus|220|dab1=Asheboro|dir1=north|NC|134|dir2=south|city1=Ulah|city2=Troy|name1=[[U.S. Route 220 Alternate (Seagrove, North Carolina)|US 220 Alt.]] south}} | |- !colspan=5|Temporary west end of I-74 |- | |49 |New Hope Church Road | |- |[[Seagrove, NC|Seagrove]] |45 |{{jct|state=NC|NC|705|city1=Robbins|city2=Seagrove}} | |- |rowspan=9|[[Montgomery County, North Carolina|Montgomery]] | |41 |Black Ankle Road | |- | |39 |[[Ether, North Carolina|Ether]], [[Steeds, North Carolina|Steeds]] ([[U.S. Route 220 Alternate (Seagrove, North Carolina)|US 220 Alt.]]) | |- |[[Star, NC|Star]] |36 |[[Star, North Carolina|Star]], [[Robbins, North Carolina|Robbins]] | |- |[[Biscoe, North Carolina|Biscoe]] |<!--33?--> |{{jct|state=NC|NC|24|NC|27|city1=Biscoe|city2=Carthage|city3=Troy}} | |- |[[Candor, North Carolina|Candor]] |<!--28?--> |{{jct|state=NC|NC|211|city1=Pinehurst|city2=Candor}} | |- !colspan=4|Temporary east end of I-74 |- | |24 |{{jct|state=NC|US-Alt|220|dab1=Seagrove|dir1=north|city1=Candor}} | |- | |22 |Tabernacle Church Road | |- |rowspan=2| |rowspan=2|18 |rowspan=2|[[Norman, NC|]] |rowspan=2| |- |rowspan=11|[[Richmond County, NC|Richmond]] |- | |16 |{{jct|state=NC|NC|73}} | |- | |13 |John Barwell Road<!--?--> | |- |[[Ellerbe, NC|Ellerbe]] |11 |{{jct|state=NC|NC|73|dir1=west|road=Millstone Road}} |Under construction |- | |8 |{{jct|state=NC|US-Bus|220|dab1=Ellerbe|dir1=north}} |