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I described ST as a "stream" protocol rather than "multicast" since IPv4 supports multicast too; the essential difference in ST is that it requires setup in the switches/routers before any data can be sent. Noel 05:09, 24 Aug 2003 (UTC)

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[edit] OSIModel

Should we add the {OSIModel} thing to this page? It's on some of the others. BrokenSegue 22:23, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)

No reason not to. Noel 14:44, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Moving header format to IPv4 page

Given that we have IPv4 and IPv6 pages, I think a lot of the detail on IPv4 (header formats, etc) should be moved to that page, and simply referred to from here. This page would then contain just generic internetwork-level concepts. Is everyone OK with this? Noel 14:44, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I agree with these changes. *think*
Though, there are a couple of ways of thinking about it. Personally, I feel that IP should now be thought of as a sort of generic term that refers to several different network layer protocols, and there ought to be links to the specifics of those protocols. But, OTOH, whenever anybody talks about IP right now, they mean IPv4. I hope that won't be the case in the future, but the fact is, it is the case right now.
--Omnifarious 05:31, 2004 Oct 5 (UTC)

Bund Marao

[edit] Fragmentation/reassembly confusion

[Discussion moved to Talk:IPv4 as it is no longer germane to this page after the reorg mentioned above/below. Noel 21:19, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)]

Now I guess I should cut-n-paste this into the page! :-) Alas, since only IPv4 has fragmentation, I'm going to have to do the "move the packet format to the IPv4 page", since IPv6 doesn't have fragmentation in the basic header. Noel 20:38, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

does ipv6 have fragmentation at all and if not how are low mtu links supposed to be handled? Plugwash 22:57, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Bund Marao...........................

I hate to add to the confusion, but I've added an exception to the Reliability section that says that IP doesn't reorder out of order packets. When IP fragments packets, if those fragments happen to arrive out of order, they are actually put back in order. While I fully realize there is a large section on fragmentation that was moved to the IPv4 page, the original IP page(which should also apply to v4) is lacking if this caveat/exception isn't mentioned. The exception isn't rare either, any large UDP data transfer is normally fragmented by IP.

If we needed to clarify my paragraph, stating it only applied to IPv4, I guess we could do this. But moving it altogether to the IPv4 page is just wrong, because it will leave people coming to the IP page only (I didn't even see IPv4 page initially) with the idea that IP *never* re-orders out of order packets, and this is not correct.

Kmwiki 19:43, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Packets/datagrams

'packets or datagrams (the terms are basically synonymous in IP)' can someone explain why? Helix84 15:31, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Does clicking on the link to Packet, and reading the article there, help?

Noel (talk) 21:13, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Structure

Maybe something like this could be added? http://www.visi.com/~mjb/Drawings/ (I found it looking at:) http://digg.com/software/IP_TCP_UDP_and_ICMP_Header_Drawings ntg_sf 13 Nov 2006


[edit] Help this is too technical!

this looks like a great detailed reference, but I just want a simple explanation of what IP is (and TCP, and what's the difference). Too much jargon for the non-pro! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.195.5.7 (talk) 02:33, 22 January 2007 (UTC).


[edit] IP Protocol article and link to TCP/IP Guide

Why revert the link to Kozierok's online book? (I tried to discuss this at User_talk:Kgfleischmann but nothing happened.) Lumpish Scholar 19:16, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The advantages of IP/ Packet based networking

IP is clearly a winner (see Next Generation Networking/all-IP) but how about a section on why. Your thoughts... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.152.115.183 (talk) 00:23, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for the Image:Ethereal ip header.png

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] IP hide and addons

theres a greasemonkey protocol addon which hides your ip from fishers or can change addon to your IP to give information about you

JIP..let others know youre a jew by leaving your internet fingerprint saying I am jewish..change IP to JIP jewish internet protocol

greasemonkey script —Preceding unsigned comment added by Murcia fluent (talk • contribs) 11:09, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Ёǎ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.161.130.85 (talk) 14:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)