Talk:International Tibet Independence Movement

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From Wikipedia:Translation into English:

  • Article: zh-tw:西藏獨立運動
  • Corresponding English-language article: International Tibet Independence Movement.
  • Worth doing because: Long article in Chinese; English-language article is a stub
  • Originally Requested by: Jmabel on behalf of User:Eequor
  • Status: In-Progress, Vina 20:56, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
    • Completed, Vina 06:54, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Other notes: User:Eequor tagged the English-language page as "needing translation", but did not note it here.
  • I did the Translation, but I cut quite a bit that was in other articles, and I feel that the actual article doesn't really touch on the movement as an organization, as opposed to the movement as an ideology. Don't know if futher cleanup is appropriate -Vina 06:54, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Why do you remove my link?

I found the author view is distinct, after reading through it I found my attitude was changed greatly. If you don't want add an external link, you can add his opinion to the article. "This is not an essay that tries to justify or defend China's human rights violations in Tibet. This is an essay that tries to present information that most Free Tibet pamphlets and articles omit, and builds the argument that campaigning to "free" Tibet is both socially and morally irresponsible."

Ok, but don't add it to every Tibet-related page. Add it to one that's appropriate. --Khoikhoi 06:00, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Led by the 14th Dalai Lama?

I thought he renounced independence and instead advocates full autonomy within China?

As early as 1988, The Dalai Lama did make clear that he wasn't advocating for Tibetan independence and as such, the Dalai lama cannot be said to lead the independence movement. I have removed this and tried to make the introductory text more accurate. We'll see if it remains. --coldmtn 12:30, 4 Feb 2006

The Dalai Lama wants what's realistic and does not involve any sort of aggression. Therefore he has agreed (he has no other peaceful choice!)to an autonomy BUT he has very important conditions such as freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of expression, you know, things that under the current regime china does not have! Me 21:28, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, maybe not freedom of religion (good thing, IMO), but buddhists are definitely allowed to practice


'I am Panchen Lama's believer,you violate Panchen Lama's volition.'DaLaiGroup bent on evil-doing.In my head they are dying.I know you are plotting a new Damageplan in Tibet China.Tibetan:CaiDaJorya


[edit] Talk

"Some people actually living in Tibet are not enthusiastic supporters of the movement, because they are non-native Chinese who have displaced the Tibetan population or because they fear punishment by the Chinese government for expressing enthusiastic support" This does not belong in the introduction. It also severely limits the list of reasons why Tibetans don't support the cause. Many Tibetans find chinese rule an improvement. That should be mentioned. 66.58.219.109 20:30, 10 March 2007 (UTC) ??????I would like to know why these Tibetan peoples find that it is an improvement and how have their lives been improved by it??????

I noticed it and changed it. The sentence was an edit to another POV statement that leaned toward the PRC position. Details on views of locals on the issue are elaborated in the body of the article, so we don't need to cover the level of support in the opening paragraph. But it suffices to say that an accurate assessment of popular support is difficult under PRC policies, so that's what I wrote. Kelvinc 20:08, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Don't be Immature

There's been some silly deleting in this article's discussion page without any reason being given in this talk page. I've redone some points (but not all) and I will report further deleting to moderators. You have been warned. Racooon (talk) 08:46, 22 April 2008 (UTC)