Talk:International Conference on the Unity of the Sciences
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[edit] Notable
I will work on the page and find some references. Steve Dufour (talk) 18:16, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
- On the souces. Introvigne's book does give the information in the sentence that cites it. I have the book and have used it as a source for some of the UC related articles. I'm sorry if the footnote implied that everything was in the one chapter that has been posted online. Steve Dufour (talk) 14:27, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- My mistake. The opening sentence was left over from the original article. I had thought that I wrote it based on Introvigne's book, which does just mention the ICUS along with other projects. Steve Dufour (talk) 14:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- I added another RS which discusses the the ICUS so removed the tags again. Steve Dufour (talk) 14:56, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- My mistake. The opening sentence was left over from the original article. I had thought that I wrote it based on Introvigne's book, which does just mention the ICUS along with other projects. Steve Dufour (talk) 14:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
"Introvigne's book does give the information in the sentence that cites it."
At the same time the Unification Church concentrated its energies on creating and developing many organizations and foundations. Some of these, created during the last thirty years, are: the International Conference for the Unity of the Sciences (ICUS), the International Cultural Foundation (ICF), and the Professors Academy for World Peace (PWPA). These organizations have promoted international academic conferences, often featuring personalities otherwise unaffiliated with Unificationism.
- Does this say that ICUS "was a series scientific conferences sponsored by the International Cultural Foundation"? No it does not! It simply says that these were two organisations created by UC, and makes no further mention of any relationship between them. HrafnTalkStalk 18:06, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
HrafnTalkStalk 18:06, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
You are right. I made a mistake. Introvigne only mentions the existence of the two organizations and that they were created by the Unification Church. The article in the Harvard Crimson (probably also a RS) mentions that the ICF sponsored the ICUS. Steve Dufour (talk) 18:45, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Then perhaps you ought to provide a URL that actually links to it. HrafnTalkStalk 18:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
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- I am trying to do that. There seems to be something happening on their site, maybe too much traffic because of graduation. Steve Dufour (talk) 19:11, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] The list
The article is currently mainly an WP:EMBEDed list of notable participants, the contents of this list says nearly nothing about the ICUS, and nothing about whether these participants did anything noteworthy there (or just gave a canned talk and/or slept through the proceedings). Its sole purpose appears to be to allow this article to ride on the coattails of their individual notability. Sorry, (i) notability isn't transitive; and (ii) such bare, uninformative lists aren't encyclopaedic. If any of these participants' participation is worth noting, then it should be possible to write prose about their participation in these conferences (and no, simply listing the title of their presentations doesn't count -- people give presentations all the time, but this is WP:NOT a reason to throw "indiscriminate collection[s] of information" in, even if the information is WP:V). HrafnTalkStalk 07:22, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with you and will remove the list of names. Redddogg (talk) 15:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- I don't object to the list being removed. I will keep looking for more sources. One problem, as I said, is the conferences took place in the 1970s and 1980s, before the Internet. Steve Dufour (talk) 19:13, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
