Talk:International Civil Aviation Organization

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Dear reader

Despite exhastive efforts i could not find a link through which i could forward few of my queries related to registration of aircraft and RVSM data base. If any body could please guide me that how and to whome could i forward these queries for an early reply, I would be certainly thankful for that.

thanking in anticipation.

Zahid Kiani

Your best bet is to go to Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous and ask there. Don't forget to say what country you are talking about. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 15:50, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pronounciation

Is it pronounced EYE-COW or EYE-KAY-O? Jigen III 05:20, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

As far as I am aware, no international standard is promulgated. I should mention that ICK-KAY-O is also a common pronunciation. treesmill 12:47, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Passports

The ICAO is also responsible for defining the standards and formats for passports, including biometric passports. This is not mentioned in this article.

Can anybody explain why the ICAO is responsible for passports? This seems perverse to me. Why should an organisation responsible for one form of transport, decide on a document which is required by international travellers using all forms of transport (aircraft, car, bus, train, ferry, on foot)? TiffaF 09:54, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

This ICAO entry needs major work. It barely scratches the surface of what ICAO is all about.

About your passport question. One of the ICAO annexes is called Facilitation. Its goal is to standardize the documents required for aircraft and their contents to travel from one country to another. If each country required a different kind of document from travellers, travel would be hell. The ICAO Facilitation Annexe standardized passports, general declarations, passenger manifest, cargo manifests, what these documents should contain, what they should look like etc. It also strandardized documents such as aircraft registrations, aircraft airworthines certificates, pilot licences (the document) medical certificates etcHudicourt 06:21, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your explanation. Yes, if passports where no standardised it would cause confusion (and also Identity documents, which can also be used for international travel). My problem is why should the body responsible for air travel do this, when passports are used for all methods of crossing borders? There would be an equal argument to give the job to the UN railway standards committee, or any other body. Also, a passport is not a commercial document, but a legal document (like a Birth certificate). The prime user is not the transport company, but the immigration / emigration services. TiffaF 07:36, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
The answer is probably that the United Nations has been given the task of standardizing passports, and it has been delegated to an appropriate UN organisation, and the ICAO was selected. There is no UN Railway organisation. There are different UN committies for economy in Europe, Asia, Africa, that also handles road and railway transport, but no such global organisation. Of course the ISO could have done it also, but now the ICAO does it.-- 217.208.214.39 (talk) 19:52, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] One-One-One or One-Eleven?

Is the flight number 111 really pronounced one-one-one on the radio? Or is it one-eleven? It seems obvious that the latter one eliminates confusion! HkCaGu 00:21, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, what policy says is one thing, and what people actually do is another thing. I'm not sure if the ICAO has a policy on this, but the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) apparently has a standard that says flight numbers and other serial numbers should be pronounced as individual digits. Look for FAA Order 7110.10 Flight Services, Chapter 14. "Phraseology", Section 14-1-13 "Number Usage". I can't find this document in the FAA's web site, but Atlas Aviation has a page that claims to have the same content, and that's what I linked to. --Jdlh | Talk 19:00, 14 July 2007 (UTC)