Talk:International Brotherhood of Magicians

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This article was nominated for deletion on XX January 2006. The result of the discussion was Keep. An archived record of this discussion can be found here.

[edit] Fact check

Some of the recent info is outrageously wrong. IBM is a pretty established institution; it was NOT founded in 1992. I've seen references to famous old magicians 50 years ago performing at IBM conventions and so forth. This info should be corrected. --C S (Talk) 19:36, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Please provide a reference (book or article) with the information, and we'll get it updated, thanks. Elonka 20:01, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

It's simple enough to check that something's wrong: in [1] you can see that the Hollywood Ring 21 was chartered in 1938. As I said, IBM is an old organization. Well, anyway, I'm adding some citation needed tags to the relevant info, as I can't find the info in the provided external link to the IBM homepage and I don't have very much time researching this. --C S (Talk) 20:42, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I do apologize for doubling the 9 instead of the 2. The IBM was established in 1922. I have fixed and cited. If there were things other than the year that you consider outrageously wrong, please list them. Dgcuff

Thanks a lot! Nice job on all the work. I was in a rush when I wrote the above, but it doesn't seem like the other info is wrong, so I have no complaints :-) It seems you have also been logged out when you made some of your edits. You might want to make sure to check the box that says "remember me" when you log in. --C S (Talk) 02:45, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Look under the History section.....what does "latterly" mean? If someone doesn't offer a solid definition for that word, I'm going to change it. Buddpaul 19:25, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Removed the word "latterly". Buddpaul 19:48, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

One difference I tried to introduce, but which subsequent revisions have removed, is the difference between the number of active rings and the number of rings in total. If this article merely repeats the total number of rings then this source is duplicating another, and of course that material should be removed from here. What is the best way to make the point that the claims of number of rings and number of members are exaggerated on the official IBM website? It may not be possible to suggest an alternate number without indulging in original research. DGCuff

[edit] Jep Hostetler

Can some Wiki-god take a good look at Jep Hostetler and explain to me why it redirects here instead of to a page for his name?? Buddpaul 19:49, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

I took a look at the Jep Hostetler article. Before it was redirected, there really wasn't much there, just a single line saying that he used to be President of the IBM.[2]. As such, the admins really had two choices: Delete it, or redirect it. Redirecting seems to have been the kinder of the two options. If you feel that he's sufficient notable to meet Wikipedia's Guidelines for Inclusion (WP:BIO), the article can be easily enough re-established. Otherwise, it's probably best to just mention his name here at the IBM article. --Elonka 23:40, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rings article

By-the-by, I really 'DO NOT think Rings (local IBM clubs) should be merged here....let's leave it right where/how it is. Buddpaul 17:52, 12 November 2007 (UTC)