Talk:Inter-Korean Summit
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[edit] This page needs major editing!
This page needs major editing! --DandanxD 11:44, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Date
"agreement on August 5 2007" Seems that August might need to be changed to an October. I'm not sure, though. 68.227.197.34 00:58, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
- As I understand it, an agreement was reached on August 5th to hold the second inter-Korean summit. At the time, the plan was the actual summit would be held on August 28th-29th but this was changed to October 2-4 after floods in North Korea Nil Einne 06:57, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Wikisource
Does anyone who can log on to Wikisource? I found the official result of 2007 summit from Pres. Roh's office. If someone can fill the article, please help us. Peterhansen2032 01:22, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Korean PR
- This article just reeks of ROK-government spin. Phrases such as "the Korean people’s reunification zeal" and the entire last section ("The meaning") makes me feel like I'm reading a government statement in the Korea Times. Plus, many news stories mention that some analysis say the meeting is just a move by Roh for political brownie points before the next elections, but I see none of that discussed here. This article requires major work. We need an encyclopedic entry, not just a reprint of the ROK government platform (which is how it currently sounds to me). Otebig 03:05, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
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- I've deleted the Meaning section. Before putting it back up, please find some sources, and make sure it doesn't violate NPOV. --Gyrcompass 21:57, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
- Well, I oppose putting PR-like sections, but just for clarifying, there are newspapers in Korea who would declare anything by Roh as politically motivated for next presidential election/national assembly election/whatever they can think of. Well, of course Roh has a political motivation. I mean, what politician doesn't?
- (Somewhat off topic) I vividly remember the Grand National Party trying to impeach Roh for nothing. One stated rationale was that Roh claimed that, even if Roh had used illegal money in his election, he had used less than 1/10 the amount the Grand National Party used... and then it turned out false! Roh used as much as 1/7 of what Grand National Party used! So basically they tried to impeach him for being only seven times cleaner than themselves. Then, after facing a tsunami-scale political backlash, a congressman of the party claimed in a radio interview that the whole impeachment thing was a political conspiracy masterminded by Roh himself. Nothing surprises me after that. Yongjik 10:51, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Gifts: ton vs. tonne
Just to clarify, is it "4 English tons" and "3 metric tonnes", or is it just a typo and it's either "tons" or "tonnes" for both? DonQuixote 22:51, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
- It was 3 and 4 of the same units, if we can trust The Age with the numbers. South Korean tons are always metric, BTW. --Kjoonlee 16:25, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "joint declaration for a peace treaty"?
Why are Kim Jong Il and the south koreans beating around the bush here and dillydallying? Why do they feel the need to sign a "joint declaration calling for a peace treaty" rather than actually making a peace treaty and ending the war already? It's a phony war by now anyway, so... 204.52.215.107 02:20, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] general work
I've added some context and recent news, so the page isn't in fairy-land any more.
Toby Douglass 16:09, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- I note a bias tag has been added. I have to say, I think this unwarranted. The information in the article is factual - the course of events with regard to North Korea is well known. Toby Douglass 11:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- I just read the article again for the first time since my "Korean PR" comment above. It looks a lot better now, and seems to follow NPOV. So, while the bias tag was needed earlier, I agree with Toby that now it's not necessary. Otebig 11:55, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
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- It wasn't there earlier - it was only added after my edits, the edits which fixed the NPOV problem you have in mind! =-) Toby Douglass 14:47, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
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- I cleaned it up a wee bit and added a reference. I removed the bias flag, since I think that it was there mainly due to potentially weasel-words. --Trevalyx 15:38, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] North Korean bias
I have to say, there seems to be either ignorance of or bias in favour of North Korea. North Korea is totalitarian. The Party controls the State. Any funds provided to North Korea are provided to the Party, and the Party is run by Kim Jong-il and his cronies. Avoiding this is at best weasal words. Toby Douglass 15:36, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Gifts Section Importance
I think someone should try and establish the notability and importance of the gifts section. Leaders all over the world give and receive gifts all the time, but this is seldom noted in these pages. I'm only playing devil's advocate here- I realize that there is significance to the ritual, but I think it might be useful for someone to use a reference or statement to that end. I don't think my old "Customs and Etiquette of Korea" book is really a good source for this. Epthorn 19:32, 4 November 2007 (UTC)