Talk:Inter-Cities Fairs Cup

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[edit] Supporting comments for restarting article

  • While I do not agree entirely with the above, I think the Fairs Cup deserves an article on its own. This competition had a different trophy and was run by differet organization. In the conclusion of this article it could then be made clear that the UEFA Cup was a successor competition. Djln--Djln 23:54, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Having come to read the articles and thus read the discussions, as a football fan I must strongly disagree with this idea that the Intercity Fairs Cup and the UEFA cup are "completely different", because that shows a lack of common sense over what is little more than a change of formats. UEFA themselves cannot register the 2 as one competition for technical reasons, but it is more than simply a matter of successer tournaments. One of the links given (http://www.uefa.com/Competitions/uefacup/History/index.html) underlines this fact, particularly with the section :

"In 1968 Leeds United AFC became the first northern European club to win the trophy, heralding a run of six successive wins by English clubs.

Name change The fifth of these was in 1971/72, won by Tottenham Hotspur FC, and the first to be known as the UEFA Cup. The change of name was recognition of the fact the competition was now run by UEFA and no longer associated with the trade fairs."

The competition was taken over by UEFA, rather than simply created. In football circles, they are both considered the same lineage and thus clubs who have won the Intercity Fairs Cup count it under UEFA cups. In practice, it's no different to the European Cup changing it's name, format, qualification rules and trophy to become the Champions League. I undersand for technical reasons the UEFA and Intercity cups must be put in seperate articles, but they are NOT totally seperate, and I don't see why Wikipedia can't follow the standard practice of football and simply have "Intercity Fairs cup/UEFA cup" for clubs whose honours list have won either to keep in the spirit of the competition, whilst still maintaining the seperate articles for more detailed descriptions and discussions.

[edit] One Club Per City

This article mentions that the one club per city rule was abolished in the early 60s when Edinburh and Barcelona had two teams in the competition, however, the UEFA Cup article states that the rule was in effect until 1975 when Everton challenged it. I also know that Clyde FC were prevented from competing in 1967 because of this rule. So my question is, does anyone know when the rule would have been reinstated or perhaps it wasn't an official rule until some time after the early 60s?--Largo1965 15:41, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

In 1965/66 both Barcelona and Espanyol played in this cup. I think this rule was unofficial. --79.11.135.94 (talk) 20:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC)