Talk:Inland Taipan
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- About it's range, the first two specimens ever found were much further south, in the Murray basin, in the 19th century. None has ever been seen there since and the species was thought extinct. It was identified again in QLD circa 1950. It had in fact been quite well known to locals who called it a "brown snake" even though it looks nothing like the Australian brown snake. The range found on the map is suspect. I'm pretty sure it is also found further south, into the south-western part of the state.
- I have moved the following: Image:Fiercerange.jpg and have replaced it with a newer image of the distribution (range) of the Fierce Snake. The newer image (Image:Fierce Snake Range.jpg) is far more accurate than the previous one (from books), despite the previous one coming from a more reliable source. --Taipan198 09:15, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Are there any scientific, as opposed to popular source, references to this snake being the most venomous snake on land. Such claims, once distributed, just run around and suddenly everybody seems to 'know' something that is not actually true.
- Well, here's one listing of the most venomous snakes. And here's a page for venomous snakes LD50 values – subcutaneous LD50 value (the lower the value the more potent the venom) seems to be the one that the "most venomous" rankings are based upon. --Anshelm '77 22:14, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Europeans introduced rodents less than 250 years ago and Australian snakes have been having a ball ever since. But what did they evolve to eat?
- Europeans introduced certain species of rat and mouse. There are several species of rat and mouse that are native to Australia, such as the Pseudomys genus of mouse, to name one. Peter1968 06:57, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Venom
I altered the statement that said "The average venom for this fierce snake" because it was potentially misleading. It isn't mentioned elsewhere in the article that the Taipan is a Fierce Snake, and the lack of capitalization makes it seem as if these snakes themselves are "fierce", i.e., "aggressive". --Walkeraj 17:30, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fangs
I've removed the statement that: "The Fierce Snake delivers its extremely neurotoxic venom, through a pair of proteroglyphous or hollow fangs that pivot and rest on the buccal floor in the top of the mouth when not in use." That would make it unique among the Elapids, though Vipers (of which Australia has none) have pivoting fangs. I believe this was an error. - AG, Stockport, UK.
Comment. It is not possible to die from an intravenous injection of venom in 2 seconds. To die from intravenous injection the venom has to pass through the circulation to the differnet organs. It takes about 10-20 second for at medical drug to reach from a hand/foot vein to the heart/brain. Then the drug has to penetrate in to the organ. It takes 30-45 second for a muscle relaxant to paralyse a patient in anaesthesia. When totally paralysed there stil is an oxygen reserve that can last up to minutes. So even with momentarial paralysis life is sustained for at least 2 minutes.
Lars Bitsch-Larsen chief aneasthetist Kalundborg Denmark
[edit] Question
The article states that "In the case of an intravenous bite, the victim dies in less than two seconds." but later says "there have been no documented human fatalities from the Fierce Snake." So who exactly would the victim be? mice? humans? If no humans have been killed by a bite, how would they know that it takes two seconds to kill you? This seems dubious at best, and needs to clarified and referenced.--168.156.92.92 19:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "2 Seconds Until Death" claim removed.
Although I'm not a snake expert, I know enough to know the intravenous bite = 2 seconds until death claim was wrong, and since two other people here agree, I decided to remove it. As I understand it, the fastest anyone has died from a venomous snakebite is from a black mamba in about 10 minutes. I would guess that a fierce snake could subdue someone in about that time, but certainly not in 2 seconds. As someone astutely pointed out, the blood travel time back to the heart would be more quite a bit more than that, and if I'm not mistaken, death occurs due to the cessation of breathing. And since there are no recorded human deaths, there's no empirical evidence for how long it takes one to die from a fierce snake bite. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.195.21.235 (talk) 02:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Proper name?
I note that the taipan article refers to this snake as the inland taipan, yet this article uses the capitalized form. Is there a reason to leave it at Inland Taipan, or should it be moved to the non-capitalized spelling? —C.Fred (talk) 00:10, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- Found the answer at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Amphibians and Reptiles/Archive 1. Looks like it's the project standard to use all caps to avoid collisions between descriptions and names (e.g. brown snake v. Brown Snake). —C.Fred (talk) 17:01, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] What does "NE" mean in the infobox?
It says "Conservation status: NE", but the conservation status article doesn't mention an "NE" classification anywhere. Is it a typo for EN (endangered)? 81.158.2.229 (talk) 19:30, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- NE = "Not evaluated". Two sources confirm this status. [1] [2] Per taxobox instructions, I am blanking this field instead of specifying NE. —C.Fred (talk) 23:48, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
