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1 Writing and Publication History
2 Vandalism
3 info on third book
4 When the third book is going to be published
5 Purpose of article?
6 Map Similarity to Wheel of Time?
7 Spoiler Tags?
8 Trilogy
9 Criticism section
10 Placement?

[edit] Writing and Publication History

There is something wrong with the timing in this section. If he graduated at 15 and wrote the novel over the next year he would be 16. If he 'fleshed out the characters' for the next year he would be 17 - if the novel was then published by his parents when he was 19 - what happened to the two years inbetween 17 and 19? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.69.137.8 (talk • contribs) 13:41, 28 July 2007

[edit] Vandalism

There is several incidents of vandalism evident in this article, particularly in the first two sections (notably dates and references to Middle-Earth).67.188.86.109 05:42, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Cheers for the heads-up - I believe I've reverted all vandalism. Una Laguna^Talk 07:05, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] info on third book

I think there should be more info on the third book if anyone has any that they might know of they should post it promptly —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.116.38.170 (talk) 22:53, 24 October 2007 (UTC) Of course that's true, but Brisingr hasn't been released yet, so there might not be tons of info floating out there. IceUnshattered (talk) 21:08, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] When the third book is going to be published

if you know when the 3rd book will be published you should put it up all i know is that it will supposedly be green with a dragon and rider and some people think it's title will be Empire in correspondence with the other books because they both start with an[E] and have seven letters

but most of all i want to know the publish date Anonymus reader that really likes the series Age 14 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.116.38.170 (talk) 22:58, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

The third book will be out September 28, 2008. I'm not sure in what country but it will come out on this date. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.37.34.29 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Purpose of article?

What exactly is the purpose of this article? It seems merely to restate the information already available in the articles of the two published books (and multiple other IT articles) with no original or unique purpose of its own. If that is the purpose then the article is redundant and should be deleted. If it has a differrent purpose, then whatever the purpose is needs to be made clear and the article needs to be written to meet that purpose.

You're right that it doesn't really add any new information to the encyclopedia, but the main use is as an overview of the entire set of books, the universe, characters and other adaptations. This is not rare: there are similar articles for Artemis Fowl, Harry Potter, and loads of video game series (I know video games are a different form of media, but I'm only using them as examples as VG articles are the ones I deal with the most). The only difference here is that, to be honest, this article isn't particularly good. Una Laguna^Talk 10:26, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Also, Harry Potter series- Peanutbutter685

[edit] Map Similarity to Wheel of Time?

The map of Alagaesia that's included in the book looks strikingly similar to that of Robert Jordan's wheel of time. Coincidence, plagiarism, or did he draw upon it for ideas? I don't think this merits going into the article, but hey, who knows? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.119.45.21 (talk) 17:03, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

If you can find one or more reliable sources which put forward this idea, then we can probably put it in somewhere. Una Laguna^Talk 17:07, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Another similarity from both series is the fact that there's Ajah in Wheel of Time, and a character named Ajihad in Eragon. Brom, and Throm 'nuff said. I haven't got to the book yet, but I heard that Perrin and Roran's situations (Roran in "Eldest", Perrin in "The Shadow's Rising" were quite similar. Plus, I've heard somewhere that WOT's beginning intro paragraph with the fade (fade and shade too) and the shade are quite similar (I haven't read Eragon in awhile, so I can't say for sure, I'd link, but I can't find the exact place to link too). I vote at least mention Wheel of Time in the critisism section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.197.232.235 (talk) 23:40, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Well maybe he read those books before and the ideas came to him. I wouldnt say its plagiarism but you know the idea could've came to his mind from the other books. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Halo123spartan (talk • contribs) 02:33, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Spoiler Tags?

Should spoiler tags be added over the characters section, or the synopsis sections? They seem spoiler enough to me, after all, it is revealed that Morzan is Eragon's and Murtagh's father. Talk about spoilers, that's two in a row, and a important one.

Well, wouldn't you expect spoilers for a story in an article about that particular story? See WP:SPOILER. Una Laguna^Talk 08:34, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trilogy

Why and when did Paolini change his trilogy into a cycle of four books? Shoudn´t that be mentioned?

He said it was the Inheritance Cycle on October 30th and he said he added a fourth because he had so much he wanted Eragon and Saphira to do that he couldn't fit it in one book. User:broncofreak12321 —Preceding comment was added at 02:07, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

good job broncofreak you know your stuff. hehe i'm broncofreak. User:Dursely —Preceding comment was added at 12:22, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism section

How can Eldest possibly be considered better reviewed when it was considered as one of the worst books of 2005? It's a total weasel word that is completely unsubstantiated. There doesn't need to be any remark about whether it was reviewed better or worse overall because we, frankly, have no way of being sure. Further, there is still no mention of his actual writing in the critical response section. I would think that is as imporrtant (if not more important) than the derivative nature stuff.DeviantCharles (talk) 10:30, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

I like how some book articles (such as Jurassic Park) have a full page for general criticism, and yet THIS series - which has been widely accused of major derivative work - comes out the other side smelling of roses. Sounds like Fanboy editing to me. 22:13, 14 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.31.249.138 (talk)

[edit] Placement?

Should Dragon Riders be put under the catergory of Characters seeing as they are a group of characters and not a character? Xanormin (talk) 18:12, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I did some work on it. LMK what you think.

Spinach Dip 20:16, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Ya that's nice man. Tyvm.

Xanormin (talk) 21:18, 1 May 2008 (UTC)