Talk:Ingigerd Olofsdotter

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[edit] One in the same

I really think that Ingegerd and Anna were one-in-the-same and would want to restore that paragraph of the edit. For example, [1] and the Swedish version of this page, [2]. Other examples?-HiFiGuy 18:32, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

The links your provided are pathetic. Irena was not Yaroslav's first wife, and you have to live with it. Early medieval monarchs didn't marry for the first time after they turned 40, you know. They had to beget themselves heirs, and the lifespan was shorter than now. Actually, we know that Yaroslav had children before his marriage to Ingigerd. His wife was taken captive by Boleslaus I during his raid on Kiev, Thietmar says. --Ghirla | talk 10:33, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
"Pathetic"? Ouch. Anyway, I'm actually not claiming that Irena was his first wife, but my curiosity is more along the lines of "is this Irena the one who became St. Anna of Novogorod?" Repeated Google searches seem to turn this (Irena was baptized Anna, and eventually became sainted) up over and over again. And, now that there are so many Annas being bandied about... does Yarolsav have a thing for Annas (as if after his own mother)? Also, I believe the Anna taken captive during the Polish capture of Kiev that you mention was Yarolsav's mother (or, at the least, "his father Vladimir's widow"). This all came up because the feast of St. Anna of Novgorod was on Feb. 10. -HiFiGuy 06:24, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Google links are neither reputable nor reliable. If you want to be taken for a serious editor, use scholarly literature available in Russian. Ingegerd was baptized as Irene not Anna. You couldn't be baptized twice or thrice and get different names each time around. It is certain that Yaroslav had at least one wife before Ingigerd. That her name was Anna is just a conjecture. At least the exhumation and anatomic examination of the remains of purported Anna in the Saint Sophia Cathedral in Novgorod revealed that she was of the same age as Yaroslav and died in her 30s, which clealy can't be said of Ingigerd who was buried in Saint Sophia Cathedral in Kiev. Irene and Anna are different women. --Ghirla | talk 08:46, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
FWIW, in my dictionary Nationalencyklopedin (in Swedish) it says this daughter of Olof Skötkonung spent the last years of her life in a convent under the name "Anna", and that she is a saint in the Russian orthodox church but never was reverred as such in Sweden. The entry is called plainly "Ingegerd", but the name "Anna av Novgorod" (Anna of Novgorod) is also mentioned. // Habj 10:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Morning Gift of Ingigerd

I would like to have some kind of comfirming if the wedding with Jaroslavl the Wise happened after he captured Kiev in 1015. Jaroslavl gave Ingigerd his morning gift after their first night when Ingigerd was at age of fifteen. And for sure a virgin before her wedding night. If the wedding did happen at Kiev the morning gift would have been in Swedish tjerna gova after the morning star which devoted to be the "star of love", Venus. Thus this morning gift was Tjerna gova which become Russian Chernigov (Tshernigov) and the areas surrounding it, not Ingria or better known after Inkereenjoki (Reka Izhora).

Any comments? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.114.205.131 (talk) 09:54, 2 September 2007 (UTC)