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Contents 1 Added (first) prototype infobox 2 My thoughts 3 Good job 4 added birthcountry and deathcountry 5 Start 6 Questions and thoughts 7 Update documentation

[edit] Added (first) prototype infobox

I just added a proposed infobox, which still needs some work including:

• a proper placement (and possibly renaming) of Stroke(s),
• a possible addition of clubs the swimmer once was and/or is a part of,
• a possible restructuring and reorganization of Career highlights, and
• a new color if the general consensus disagrees with the current one.

I'm open for any suggestions. --I Are Scientists 03:05, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My thoughts

Wow! Thank you! This is great! Here are my thoughts:

• I would opt not to add clubs (s)he belongs to, or did belong to, whereas we don't have many articles pertaining to the clubs. So, unless we are not going to link them, it will result in a lot of red ink.
• I added (s) to nickname.
• I like the color, reminds me of water.
• Changes might be needed for career highlights, but I'm not sure where they belong right now.
• I would move strokes up twards the top.

Once again, thank you! This is a great help! --wpktsfs 03:52, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. I took your advice and moved strokes above the personal information section as it seemed out of place, and now the infobox flows a little better. As for the career highlights, I was thinking about somehow incorporating the template for medal records into the infobox; but I'm still not sure whether it would be practical, or even feasible. --I Are Scientists 04:40, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Strokes is now too high. When I meet swimmers that I don't know at meets, I ask their name first, then I ask what club they are (in this case, nationality) and then what stroke they swim. Therefore, I think the order should go name, nickname, nationality, stroke. Stroke is a more vital topic than birth and death, but less vital than name and nationality. Keep it up! --wpktsfs 19:27, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good job

I like it! Strokes should be after Full Name, though --Lemonflash 21:24, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Maybe you should add Club, for swimming club. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lemonflash (talk • contribs) 23:38, 27 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] added birthcountry and deathcountry

I've added birthcountry and deathcountry. And then I wonder if weight is really needed in this infobox? // SMARTSKAFT | ¿ 12:01, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I've noticed on most other infoboxes related to sports (such as the NBA player infobox and Cyclist infobox) information like height and weight are included. --I Are Scientists 20:48, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Start

I am going to start using this template. --wpktsfs 22:40, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Questions and thoughts

I have done some work on this template which means that when fields are not used, they don't create whitespace at the top of the article. I did notice, however, that nearly none of the fields are compulsory. Usually a few are made compulsory - such as birth date, nationality or (in this case) strokes. There is a comment above about height and weight. Adding this kind of information depends upon how recent the information is available. Some projects decide not to include some such information (particularly weight) as it is not updated by the club regularly enough. You may also want to consider if the three fields at the bottom (Awards, Medals and Records) are too much. Medals will almost certainly be covered by a medal table already. Awards and Records could just get silly for some people. That's not to say there shouldn't be something to highlight notability. Overall it's a nice little infobox - is there a reason why it isn't used? Regards, Severo^TC 15:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Update documentation

It would be good if someone who knew a bit more about the template could update the usage and fields sections to match the medaltemplates bit. -- Cowplopmorris^Talk_Contribs 18:43, 20 September 2007 (UTC)