Template talk:Infobox Music genre

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[edit] Popularity

"major popularity" must be removed. It is disputable, POV, and depends of time moment. mikka (t) 2 July 2005 17:29 (UTC)

I agree. --Jones5 15:34, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Genre

What exactly are the differences between "derivative genres", "subgenres" and "fusion genres"? --Circeus 04:05, January 2 2006

subgenres are styles of a genre that have become notable enough to have been called a new name in their specific scenes, i.e., heavy metal music > thrash metal, black metal, death metal, etc
derivative genres are styles of music that are related to the parent genre musicologically but are considered seperate or developed enough to be considered parent genres, i.e., rock music > heavy metal music, punk rock, etc
fusion genres are subgenres that fuse the parent genre with other distinct genres/subgenres, i.e., industrial music > industrial metal, industrial rock --MilkMiruku 20:03, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] optionality

Needs to be made so that fields are optional, and not shown if they're not entered.--Urthogie 15:58, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Did that already with hiddenstructure. how/where does it not work? Circeus 16:02, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
On rapcore.--Urthogie 21:03, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
Solution is that all variables MUST be listed,with those unused left empty (also makes the job easier if said variables need to be filled later.)Circeus 21:07, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
Cool, thanks!--Urthogie 21:14, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] move 'Derivative forms:' down a bit?

might it be an idea to move the 'Derivative forms:' section down to below 'Fusion genres'? i feel subgenres and fusion genres are more notable in relation to a genre article than derivative forms. also, would a better wording not be "Derivative styles:"? --MilkMiruku 20:46, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adding a Tnavbar?

Could we add a view/talk/edit option to the infobox?

<center>{{Tnavbar|{{PAGENAME}}}}</center>

So that we have this on each one:

This box: view • talk • edit

I just think it would make things a lot easier, and it makes it much easier than just editing every template that uses the format individually. 66.229.182.113 10:55, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image

Image syntax should be added. It doesn't need to be included in every article, but can be helpful in some where an artist's image is as relevant to the genre as the music. —Malber (talk • contribs) 14:51, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Polish interwiki

{{editprotected}} Can someone add Polish interwiki to the template? [[pl:Szablon:Gatunek muzyki infobox]] Thanks. Hołek ҉ 12:32, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Would you consider adding interwikis on the Polish page as well? SalaSkan 18:43, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
Of course, I just forgot about that. ;) Consider it done. Hołek ҉ 11:33, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Y Done ck lostsword•T•C 19:01, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Characteristics or Style Elements

I suggest adding a field for one of these:

Characteristics =

Musical Features =

Elements of Style =


This could be used to identify specific features of a music genre, such as in jazz or blues the use of swingtime, or in different types of dance music, examples of the common BPM for different, etc... The field should be general enough for any style elements to be included. Probably best if the text shows up small, since it might include multiple elements in a list. --Parzival418 Hello 20:56, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

What exactly do you want? How should the change be coded? You may want to ask at Wikipedia:Requested templates to find someone to write and test the code for this change. --ais523 16:43, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
OK, that's a good idea. I'll come up with something more defined and then re-post here with the suggested change in detail. For now I'm removing the editprotected tag. When I have the specifics ready, I'll re-post here and add the tag again. Thanks for the reply. --Parzival418 Hello 17:49, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Visual Presentation

I find that this box doesn't play well with the HTML on some pages, for example the Death Metal page looks wrong when the page is too wide: this box overlaps boxes lower down on the page. I'd fix it but I don't know how.

[edit] Recommended colors, if any

Do the colors (color and bgcolor elements) signify anything? I don't see any rules anywhere, and I'm trying to figure out a recent undiscussed change.[1] / edg ☺ ★ 15:25, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Hmm... doesn't look like there are any rules or guidelines for the colours. People have probably just been using whatever might look appropiate for the genre. Should we make a list of genres that use this infobox and the colours currently used by each? Yep, sounds like a good start to organizing something; I'll check them out. --Geniac 19:29, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Never mind. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Music genres/Colours. --Geniac 19:46, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Parameters

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On House music you notice how using {{{cultural_origins}}} instead of {{{cultural_origins|}}} has resulted in a meaningless parameter to be shown. This should be fixed. (Also, it would be a good idea to change {{{stylistic_origins}}} to {{{stylistic_origins|}}}) huji—TALK 21:43, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Code added to display parts of table optionally, but still display parameter names in template space for documentation. Gimmetrow 03:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Possible Creators

I propose 'Possible Creators' section, as every single genre has certain people at its roots and it is useful to find them in infobox -- Werwerwer11 (talk) 12:06, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

That would be an original research field. Wikipedia already has too much OR already. Peter Fleet (talk) 12:46, 22 April 2008 (UTC)