Template talk:Infobox Ethnic group/Archive 1
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{{infobox ethnic group |group = |image = |caption = |poptime = |popplace = |langs = |rels = |related = }}
Usage notes
This template is designed to be used in articles about ethnic groups. It is based on the work of WikiProject Ethnic Groups, and I have modified it for pipe syntax (to make it easier to edit) and set up parameters to input information.
The parameters are:
- {{{group}}} — the name of the group (e.g. Armenians).
- {{{image}}} — place an appropriate image here. (Optional)
- {{{caption}}} — place an appropriate caption for the image here. (Optional, should be used only if there is an image)
- {{{poptime}}} — show how the population has changed over time; you can use template:population to format each entry.
- {{{popplace}}} — show the population of the group in various different places; you can use template:population to format each entry.
- {{{langs}}} — list the languages spoken by the group.
- {{{rels}}} — list the religious affiliations of the group.
- {{{related}}} — list ethnic groups that are related to the group.
Gareth Hughes 18:30, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Some people have had difficulty with the image and caption field. Here'a an example of using them appropriately:
|image=[[Image:Praying Tibetan Women.jpg|250px|Two Tibetan women in front of the Potala, Lhasa (2005)]]
|caption=Two Tibetan women<br>in front of the [[Potala]], [[Lhasa]] (2005)
Jmabel | Talk 00:32, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Alternative
See also: Template:Infobox ethnic group, Wikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic Groups Template. --Joy [shallot] 10:57, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
Other discussion
Was there a discussion at WikiProject Ethnic Groups adopting this new template? If so, could you direct me to it, I must have missed it, and I'm not at all sure I would have favored this template: I find it less legible than what it replaces. -- Jmabel | Talk 04:44, August 8, 2005 (UTC)
I'm somewhat mystified by this template and where it is coming from. It does not appear to have been widely adopted, and with good reason. I seems to be of limited usefulness. One vital piece of information that is missing is an entry for "Name of ethnic group", as used by the ethnic group itself, and as known by others. This is particularly noticeable if you are discussing the minority ethnic groups in places like China, the articles for few of which seem to have adopted this template.Bathrobe 03:08, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
- There is no specific field for the name, but you can put it in the fields "group" or "name" to achieve the same effect. I did that in several instances. --Joy [shallot] 16:42, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
I second the proposal about other names, but IMO what is needed is a single new field: {{{Self-name}}}, which must provide a native writing, transliteration and transcription. IMO in English wikipedia only two names matter: English and native. The rest goes into wiktionary, with interwikilink provided in the template: [[Wiktionary: {{PAGENAME}}|Wiktionary]] or smth. mikka (t) 20:11, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
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- Mikkalai, for some groups that is clearly true (Bulgarians or Swedes, for example), but for others, not at all (Jews: what native language do you have in mind: Hebrew? Ladino? Yiddish? Judæo-Arabic? Etc.?). And there are many cases in between (Gypsies in English includes both Roma and Sinti; the Lakota also call themselves Teton or Titonwon, how could we choose one among these to the exclusion of the others?). I'd be all for adding to the template in a way that allows for the usage you propose, but we still need to account for these more complex cases as well. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:34, 8 November 2005 (UTC)