Template talk:Infobox Education

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[edit] Use of this template

The purpose of this template is to provide a quick at a glance demographics table on education pages for different countries. Here is the breakdown of the different tags used:

country name - the name of the country in the article title
agency - the name of the educational oversight agency (i.e., Ministry of Education, etc.)
agency image - logo, seal, etc. of the oversight agency or other appropriate image, must use image wikimarkup (i.e., [[Image:agencyimagename.png|120px]]
leader titles - titles of education agency directors (i.e., Minister of Education or Deputy Minister of Education)
leader names - names of the directors of the education agency
budget - budget for education, or education agency
budget year - year of budget quoted
primary languages - what language(s) is/are schools taught in
system type - some countries have a federal (where provinces control education) or a nationalized system (obviously variations exist)
established events - establishment of educational system, any event important to the educational system
established dates - dates of events
literacy year - year of literacy estimate; formerly rank of literacy, currently unavailable on Wikipedia
literacy total - total population literacy rate
literacy men - total male population literacy rate
literacy women - total female population literacy rate
enroll total - total number of students enrolled
enroll primary - number of primary students enrolled
enroll secondary - number of secondary students enrolled
enroll post-secondary - number of students enrolled at the college or graduate levels (sometimes known as tertiary education)
attain secondary - percent of population who have graduated from secondary school (or high school)
attain post-secondary - percent of population who have graduated from post-secondary school (collge, university, graduate, etc.)

[edit] Empty syntax

{{Education infobox
|country name =  
|agency image = 
|agency =  
|leader titles =  
|leader names =  
|budget = 
|budget year =  
|primary languages =  
|system type = 
|established events =  
|established dates = 
|literacy year =  
|literacy total = 
|literacy men =  
|literacy women = 
|enroll total =  
|enroll primary =  
|enroll secondary =   
|enroll post-secondary =   
|attain secondary = 
|attain post-secondary = 
|footnotes =
}}

[edit] Comments

Thanks for the instructions. A few thoughts:

  • agency image: instead of [[Image:{{{agency image}}}|120px]] I would ask for a complete image formating, this way, if theres no image available, there will be an empty space and no [[Image:|120px]] text (se {{Football club infobox}}).
  • Enrollment: might be more descriptive as the % of students over the total of persons that should be visiting that stage of education.
  • established events: Really needed?. Anyway, it can be ignored by leaving this fields blank.

-Mariano 10:53, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

I changed the agency image to fit this way, I like that idea. As to enrollment, you can easily put in a percentage instead of a number. I realize established events in relatively unnecessary, but it seems important, to me at least, to be at least able to say when the current system was established.--naryathegreat | (talk) 17:13, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

You are right about the percentage, didn't think about it. Thanks for the fixes! -Mariano 07:13, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

(I noticed the remark on Education in Germany.) Thanks, but oh boy, this infobox hardly can fit a country such as Germany, where each Land (state) has complete sovereignty over the education and it is unconstitutional for the federal government to perform any "oversight"... It is probably better to design a box for Germany (I am not even sure whether there another case in the world) than claim that there is something (functionally) like the US Department of Education — Ylai 11:46, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Optional items

How about making all but the most basic items optional? That way, if something doesn't apply (perhaps like for Germany), it doesn't have to be used. Also, having a few "free" items would allow for more customization, but still have a consistent framework. See Template:Infobox School2 for an example. Rfrisbietalk 17:04, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Education infobox

How are the Primary, Secondary, and Post-Secondary stages of education defined? Are they between certain ages, eg. Primary (6-11), Secondary (11-15) etc? Is there a Wikipedia consensus for these definitions? Also, how about after the educational budget figure, having a percentage of GDP or total government expenditure? eg. USD 69.4 billion (10% government expenditure) This would show at a glance the relative priority education is given in the country's national budget. Lastly, where did you get the information for the statistics? Thanks. Bobo12345 08:39, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Primary, secondary, and post-secondary are their relative definitions in the particular country as grades and ages vary widely between nations. Post-secondary is a little more obvious as it usually indicates education beyond that required by the state.--68.95.163.166 15:20, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Primary, secondary, post-secondary schools

IMHO it would be more interesting to know what each country calls their primary, secondary, and post-secondary schools in their own language and in English (e.g., in th US that would be elementary school, middle school, high school, etc) and which ones are compulsory. Including typical ages for each level would make comparing educational systems between countries easier. It can also be interesting to know what the names of the respective post-secondary degrees are in each country. While it may not apply for the US, in many European and Asian countries school children are required to learn a second language (often English) and it would be interesting to know at what age they start learning the 2nd language. Also, it may be difficult to find the statistics for how many people attend each level of education (in percents or numbers). panda 14:41, 16 July 2007 (UTC)