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[edit] Tasklist

[edit] Replacing existing templates

Please note, that once these templates have been replaced, they should be deleted, and their talk pages archived here.

Also, once they have been deleted, this template will be renamed "Infobox Disney attraction".

[edit] Talk Archive from Template talk:Disney World ride

NOTE: This section is an archive. Please do not add or modify it

How is the Intercot link in here not a self serving link? I personally dont think something like that needs to be in a template but should be in the references. --Napnet 22:29, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I guess if no one complains, I'll remove it since in theory we should also add links to sites like WDWMagic, WDWHistory, All Ears, Jim Hill, Laughingplace.com and others that have information about Disney rides in the template. I'll wait till August 12, 2006. --Napnet 17:41, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
I thought it was odd being there as well, not saying Intercot is bad, but if anything is there it should be a link to the official page. --blm07 06:21, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Ok I removed it and checked to make sure it didn't break anything. No one seemed to mind. --Napnet 23:05, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New template

Since I was never happy with the super duper simple templates (Template:Disney show & Template:Disney ride) I've been tinkering with a brand spanking new infobox template for the past couple of hours.

Check out Template:Infobox Disney attraction, it can be used for Disney shows and rides and it looks as nice as the infobox on some articles. To see it in action check out this example. It even includes a place for the four New York World's Fair attractions and sponsors for each resort used. --blm07 02:36, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

The Template:Infobox Disney attraction is much more inclusive, and this template should be deprecated in favor of the infobox. There are still some problems with it, but I will address them on that talk page. Bytebear 00:02, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New discussion

I saw you added entries for these two icons, so I uploaded two icons from park maps that you can add to the template: Image:Disney - Transfer from wheelchair icon.png Image:Disney - Assistive listening icon.png --blm07 02:38, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I was going to request it. we also need closed captioning. Bytebear 02:58, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I've archived the old discussions in Template talk:Infobox Disney attraction. That keeps the old discussions and includes editing history. When the move happens, all the old talk pages will be there. I haven't moved the Disney ride template's talk page yet however. --blm07 04:42, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm still unsure about this. Is it some kind of rule that all this sort of information is supposed to be in the infobox? Is it that bad to have a separate section just for the bigger facts? And you want to put the roller coaster infobox underneath the Disney one? If this is what the people want, then so be it, but hardly anyone says anything. I'm not opposed to my template being removed if it is for one that I'd consider better and I do consider this one better, I just feel it has too much info. --blm07 05:15, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Take a look at some of the pages using the new template. I think it makes it much easier to read. I don't think we need the Roller Coaster template, as the new template covers most of the settings, and has 8 general values for additional info. I agree we need more feedback. maybe we can request a formal review. or we can look at the talk pages of other infoboxes for clarity. Bytebear 22:38, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey, I forgot one icon: Image:Closed captioning symbol.svg it is the same exact icon that Disney uses on their guide maps. It was already here on Wikipedia. If I ever have a chance to, I'll scan all of the icons in much nicer quality. --blm07 08:25, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey, thanks. That's great. I made a slight attempt to clean up the images, but I am just not an artist. I will leave that to the more talented. Bytebear 20:32, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Just saw this on wikipedia: Image:Deafsymbol.jpg and once again, this is the exact image that Disney uses for the ALD system. I'll keep an eye open for more. --blm07 21:57, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I've created a transfer icon: image:Attraction transfer icon.png, it is free and I think it looks better than the cruddy one I uploaded before. Also, I added captions to the various icons. --blm07 06:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Meters/ft

I think the fact that one has to enter a notion in ft. and that its metric conversion is displayed in brackets is a bit US-centric. There are other English-speaking countries, you know, and they have converted to the metric system. Can't there be an option to enter something in meters? SergioGeorgini 19:33, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

it might be good to add measurements for metric as well, but it does get complicated. you have one value "height_ft" and "height_m" and the template can calculate the alternative displaying "000ft (000m)" or should it be "000m (000ft)"? Since Disney is a US company and two of the parks (including the original flagship Disneyland), I have no problem supporting only the US-centric style. Perhaps we can add the other style, but then what are the rules for it's use? Do we have US parks use the US style, and all others the metric? How to we explain to editors that they do not need to include both values? It is something to think about, but there are about 100 pages that are still using the old template, which I think is a more pressing issue. Bytebear 19:43, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, I suppose the brackets could be removed at the very least, so that a notion would be displayed as "45ft/22m" rather than "45ft(22m)". I realise it's a complicated matter script-wise, but it just feels very wrong to a non-American to have to convert something to this (which you consider an archaic) system even though you're editing a Disneyland Paris article. And Tokyo Disney Resort isn't even owned by Disney, so trying to jusify the ft. system there is clutching to straws.
It's a small issue of little importance, but it would be nice to see it corrected. SergioGeorgini 12:32, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] E-Ticket

Do we want to add E-Ticket and other ticket information? I suppose we can use the custom fields, but it might be nice to use a graphic for the ticket. Thoughts? Bytebear 00:07, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

If you go for a graphical look, you might want to use the Waltograph font. There is enough room on the other side of the extra options to put something like "Ticket: E" there (with the ticket letter being the image. The only thing is, how to tell the viewer that this ticket method isn't used anymore. --blm07 01:28, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
You could have it like this maybe: "Ticket: E" --blm07 01:30, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deaf symbol

So apparently it "can't" be used, so what about this? Maybe I'll try to make something. --blm07 03:25, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Here it is: Image:Assistive listening icon.png. Crummy? Good? Don't know, but that's why its free. --blm07 03:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wheelchair symbol discussion

In case any of you are not yet aware, there is currently a discussion in progress at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Use of international wheelchair symbol concerning whether or not we should use the International Symbol of Access to indicate handicapped-accessible Disney rides, train/metro statains, etc. Our other options are plain text without an image or an alternative icon such as . Your input would be welcome. —Remember the dot (talk) 20:51, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Wow huge debate going on. Looks like paranoia, I think the image is fine to use in the template, but I'm not about to join a huge debate about it. Someone changed the template so the text is next to the symbols, anyone know why there are empty spaces when some aren't used? Can it be fixed so there are no empty spaces? --blm07 21:33, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for voicing your opinion!
I changed the template so that it would be a little more clear what the images stand for. I think I've got the spacing issues fixed now. Let me know if there are still problems. —Remember the dot (talk) 00:49, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Long lists

Since it has been quiet here for a while, I might as well bring this up. Do long lists really need to be in infoboxes? I think there should be a section just for scenes and / or previous attractions. It isn't necessary to shove all of that info into the box. --blm07 23:17, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree completely. This is like a bit of a pet peeve of mine on TV infoboxes that re-list the list of episodes in the infobox.. -- Ned Scott 05:54, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
I will disagree. There is a lot of choices on this infobox, but only about 5 or 6 of them are actually used for a single attraction. If you look at how it is used, this box is not long. Bytebear 22:14, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Look at Test Track, it's pointless to have all those scenes in there, and what about the MSEP article? The infoboxes would be utterly huge if the floats were put into the boxes. We really need more input on this template from the rest of the community. --blm07 01:56, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Test Track is an example of abusing the "custom" field, and adding every scene. It is not a standard field, and should be removed. Otherwise it looks fine. Bytebear 22:32, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Track gauge

How does one add |track_gauge=((3ft)) ?? Peter Horn 02:01, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't think there is currently a track_gauge parameter. You might be able to use one of the custom fields instead. —Remember the dot (talk) 02:21, 12 June 2007 (UTC)