Template talk:Infobox Boxer

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[edit] Position of {{KO}} column

Give me one reason that the W-(KO)-L-D-NC format is superior to W-L-D-NC (KO) format. ArcTheLad 00:28, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

As it looks more natural and better that W-(wins by KO)-L-D-NC for me so I removed {{KO}} under the {{Win}} column, but I am not sure that you accept it or not. Anyway, I agree that {{name}} was removed into statsbox. I like it. --Yappakoredesho 09:58, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Its doesn't bother me either way. Although I believe the no contest part should be optional Maya Levy 06:23, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hometown listing

There should be a hometown listing, especially for boxers that are popular for their hometowns but born in a different location (Marvin Hagler, Winky Wright, Arturo Gatti, Joe Frazier, Thomas Hearns) Miss Maya Levy 06:09, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

I definitely agree. In fact I wasn't aware it had been removed until just now. Especially since Boxrec goes by hometown and birthplace, which for most boxers, are different as well as significant. Btl 07:01, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Actually maybe adopting BoxRec's entire setup is better. At least for where "Weight" and "Style" are used. "Rated At" and "Stance" make much better sense both boxing terminology wise and layman understanding. I'm going to take down the requested change box until somebody replies to this with any thoughts. Btl 07:26, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
I think "Hometown listing" should not be in the infobox because it always changed in life. It should be somewhere in an article (not in the box).--Yappakoredesho 10:41, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Well I think to have nationality in the box, which suits foreign born fighters, is akin to having hometown listed, which would suit American born fighters who fight and train out of specific areas of the country, which very rarely if at all change. Still, I'd concede this arguement if we could get weight and style changed and have a height listing added. Btl 03:09, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Adding long captions

Adding a long caption causes this infobox to take over the entire page: see here for an example. Can somebody fix this, please? —Chowbok ☠ 18:33, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] iwiki's

Same version in interwiki:

Sorry, templete is read only for me.Pavelegorov 18:55, 11 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] New Listings

Outside of the immediate need for Height. Would anyone else agree to see Weight changed to Rated At, and Style changed to Stance? I have no idea who to approach and the feedback on here...has been non-existent. I'd accept criticisms, assuming anybody reads this. Btl 03:11, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree that Height is important. For example I would like to add one to Wladimir Klitschko - but unable to. --TAG 17:56, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
I see no objections so I'm going to get stuck in and make the changes you suggest :-) SeveroTC 22:41, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Style guidelines?

I was thinking of some style guidelines to add to the usage notes. How do these look? SeveroTC 23:03, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Style guide

[edit] Density of information

Try to always consider that an infobox exists to support an article and provide a quick synopsis of important facts. This becomes vital when considering that the amount of space available within an infobox is significantly less than that available outside of it. Adding all seventy three nicknames is highly informative, but will defeat the purpose of the infobox.

[edit] Wikilinking

As per the manual of style entry on linking, years should not be linked as they do not provide much benefit to the user. However, date of birth should be linked to enable date preferences to work - use of {{birth date and age|''year''|''month''|''date''}} and {{birth date|''year''|''month''|''date''}} will do this automatically. Linking of other entries is to be discouraged as most of these links will present themselves in the article's introduction; linking them in the infobox adds clutter and inhibits the speedy retrieval of facts.

[edit] Dates of birth and death

To help with the hCard microformat, the use of standard templates is encouraged. This currently extends to birth date templates, {{birth date and age}} for living boxers and {{birth date}} for the deceased. The hCard standard for date of death is pending.

[edit] Units of measurement

As per the manual of style the boxer's height should be in the units most common within the country they compete. Use of the {{height}} template is encouraged.

Any thoughts? SeveroTC 23:03, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Other fields

Should we include "reach" as a field? Useful to have this info for uncoming fights. Is there anything else? Cutler 15:21, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Support. --TAG 16:26, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Support as well. Definately useful information, but should be optional to not effect existing articles.Maya Levy 04:22, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hometown listing - Revisited

I'd like to revisit this subject again. When listing the place of birth, one usually assumes that they are from that area, when listing their hometown, it makes it a bit more convieniant to suggest where a fighter was raised/trained instead of having to read the whole article. Even fighters from foreign countries have specific regions that they represent. For example, Julio Cesar Chavez born in Cuidad Obregon, Mexico, but represented Culiacan, Mexico for his whole professional career. For countries w/ culturally different locations like Canada, it'll be really telling if a fighter is from Quebec or one of the English provinces. Maya Levy 04:35, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Support - I feel that your idea is very suitable. In Japan, many boxers come to Japanese Gym for activity from their countries.--W/mint-Talk- 13:16, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Oh sorry Maya Levy, hometown will be listed as {{{fightingoutof}}} if this unified template {{Infobox Martial artist}} is used instead of {{Infobox Boxer}}. --W/mint-Talk- 14:16, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New unified infobox for MMA, Kickboxing, Boxing

Since there's so many fighters who have pro record under more than one method, I wanted to create a unified infobox. Check this out let me know what you guys think. Template:Infobox Martial artist biography. I've been mostly contributing on muay thai, K-1 and some boxing but it'll be cool if we could use one unified box for all those martial arts. All parameters are optional, lets say if the boxer doesn't have any kickboxing or MMA record or vise versa. I can add Stance and Reach as well or Years Active to make it more specific for Boxers, not a problem but i wanted to ask u guys before i spend more time on it. (Marty Rockatansky 20:35, 23 October 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Record

Can't the record be displayed in one horizontal line (like this: "53-3-1 (43 via KOs)")? --Howard the Duck 12:15, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Addition of place of residence

I believe that residence should be added to the infobox as it is freely avaliable information that would serve only to enhance the template.--Lucy-marie (talk) 14:27, 19 May 2008 (UTC)