Talk:Influence and reception of Friedrich Nietzsche
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[edit] Letter to Nietzsche's Sister
For the letter to Nietzsche's sister, citing a website does not seem like the most appropriate reference. Is this letter published somewhere? If not, who owns the letter? Similarly, who translated the letter? (PhilipDSullivan 20:35, 20 September 2007 (UTC))
[edit] Made the decision to delete
I have given close to a month for a response on this problem to the letter citation and there has been none. I checked the website and I have found no indication as to where the letter is located, who has published it, or who has translated it. I am removing the text and quote in the article making reference to this article. Below is the section being removed incase there is an argument for its survival. PhilipDSullivan 23:05, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The deleted
Nietzsche himself thoroughly disapproved of his sister's anti-Semitic views; in a letter to her he wrote:
You have committed one of the greatest stupidities—for yourself and for me! Your association with an anti-Semitic chief expresses a foreignness to my whole way of life which fills me again and again with ire or melancholy. … It is a matter of honor with me to be absolutely clean and unequivocal in relation to anti-Semitism, namely, opposed to it, as I am in my writings. I have recently been persecuted with letters and Anti-Semitic Correspondence Sheets. My disgust with this party (which would like the benefit of my name only too well) is as pronounced as possible.
– Friedrich Nietzsche, Letter to His Sister, Christmas 1887
[edit] Opening Paragraph
The opening paragraph seems a bit weak to me. This could be because this entire article seems to me to not live up to its title. But maybe if we can propose a structure, purpose, and definition of what we truly aim to achieve in this opening paragraph the rest of the article will by neccesity fall into a better place. PhilipDSullivan 04:07, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Trivia
The list of trivia building is nothing more than a list of trivia, and it seems to have items of self promotion items. If we allow one we will have to allow any reference ever made to nietzsche by any band or author and I have to ask how will this service our article? This type of information would be suitable in an article about trivial facts associated with nietzsche but I believe it degrades the value of this attempt at something good. I am going to delete the entire section of items that seem trivial. If there is an arguement to keep any of these PLEASE talk about it here first. I can understand how some seem appropriate but as the list continues into the absurd there seems to be no suitable place to draw the line and thus the line seems best drawn at the threshold. PhilipDSullivan 04:58, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] POV
I could be mistaken, but for there to be a non neutral point of view there would actually have to be a talk page with more than one editor in which two editors have an ongoing disagreement, because there is no such disagreement I am removing the POV labeling. I agree fully that this article needs a lot of improvement of which multiple experts would be needed for the multiple time periods and groups that would be involved in an explanation of Nietzsche's influence. PhilipDSullivan 05:08, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Views on women
In spite of Nazi's general doctrine of Kinder, Kuche, Kirche (children, kitchen, church), they wasn't against women's participation in business if they wanted (Mein Kampf, II.3). Nietzsche wouldn't be neither, since he didn't consider business an important thing – so it would probably be in the terms of foolishness (that's rather there instead of "folly" in that quotation, according to the original), or in the terms of dance, recreation. – I think it's natural that if men participate in war, women are a bit less important, isn't it?
(And why Nietzsche praised an open war instead of a hidden one? Two major reasons: first, because "peace" supports morality which always struggles against most powerful elements (unless they deny themselves), and second, because it virtualizes life, i.e. separates the chances for survival from health and power.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheUgliest (talk • contribs) 05:37, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
