Talk:Indie role-playing game
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[edit] Major revision
This page is referenced from all Forge games on Wikipedia, games I care about, so I want it to look good. It's really important, though, to get a broader picture of the indie business than just the Forge, so I thank the anonymous 24.235.142.219 for that. I cross-edited the article with him/her, so if anything looks really messed up it's my fault and I'll correct it tomorrow if no one else does. Great work, whoever you are! I want to invite you to the WikiProject on Role-playing games if you haven't been already.
Also, Jeltz, I removed the "aggregator" part of 20' by 20' room and you put it back again. It's not an aggregator, it's a collaborative blog written by multiple people. Jonas Karlsson 00:40, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Indepedent All Over Again
First of all, thanks for your kind words (I'm the guy who did the big revision).
Secondly, though, I made a minor edit because of a bit of POV and some redundant terminology. *All* mainstream companies sell through non three tier venues, and *most* of them are independent businesses. Offhand, I can only name WotC and Black Industries as true RPG "subsidiaries." You might also include licensors like FanPro as a "non-ndependent" publisher. All the same, though, companies like White Wolf and Palladium are owned and ultimately run by their founders, but they wouldn't fit under any definition of "indie." Furthermore, some small companies are technically imprints of a company that exists for tax purposes (I know of one; they came out with Hearts Swords Flowers for BESM as well as a couple of owner-designed games), so scale, rather than legal organization, is really the primary factor. Plus, setting that definition kind of ruins the point of a section about "other definitions," especially since it's posible to see a largish company in the same way that an artist sees an indie publisher or record label. Remember: most independent artists do *not* DIY from start to finish (and in literary publishing, it's treated with contempt -- self-publishing your fic basically means you suck). That's the Forge's particular bias, and they've broken that rule a couple of times themselves.
I've just made an additional edit for POV. You can't privilege a definition of indie in the first line and then talk about how the definition is subject to interpretation. It's slightly weaselly, so I axed it. On the other hand, self-publishing is important, and I'll add a wikilink and aside in the article.
[edit] Top Definition
The introduction still seems to have POV problems. The definition given in the first line doesn't match the definition given on either the Forge or the Indie RPG Awards, for example. I think the first line should show the range of definitions. John.h.kim 18:49, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Diana: Warrior Princess
I've removed Diana: Warrior Princess from the list of Forge games, since the only mention of that game on that bulliten board is holding it up as a funny title. I see no relationship between the game and the Forge. If there is some connection that I am unaware of, I'd love to hear what it is. -- Joshua BishopRoby 23:36, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The Forge Redirect
Okay, help me out here and assure me that I'm not going insane. The Forge did have a separate page at one time, didn't it? I remember a Forge wiki page, but what is now a redirect page has nothing in its history that once had content. I can understand placing it in this article (although I'm not sure I agree with it, any more than "Democratic Party" should redirect to "Republicanism"), but it used to be separate at one time, right? Right? -- Joshua BishopRoby 17:48, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image for the Article
Is there any good reason not to use Image:Sorcerer rpg bookcover.jpg? The Bearded One (talk) 19:16, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
