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[edit] Regional planning

In the last paragraph, "fragmented" and "coalesce" seem borderline NPOV. I suggest "independent" and "join". Thoughts? 3idiot 14:43, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

POV? It doesn't sound POV to me, but I'm fine with changing if you think it's better. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 15:02, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Actually, that's why I floated it for discussion. I wanted some other thoughts. I'm admittedly hypersensitive to the issue living in one of the donut counties and favoring smaller, more local government over larger, more abstracted government.
I get a "disorganized" and "inefficient" connotation from "fragmented". I get a "finally, they'll see the light" connotation from "coalesce". But if it's just me, that's a good thing.
I'll make no changes and await/encourage discussion.
3idiot 01:11, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Okay Whatever makes sense to you makes sense to me. WP:BE BOLD, and all. In which crappy county do you live? If you're from Carmel, I don't like you (does anyone get a joke anymore...?) -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 01:23, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Considering none of the statements are referenced or dated, who knows what any of it "means" (not me). I don't even know what regional planning actions – real, proposed or imagined – it's talking about.
p.s. Having lived in Carmel and Speedway, I beat myself up all the time! Rfrisbietalk 02:00, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

WP:BE BOLD it is. Kinda. I edited the one that rubbed me the most and left the one that I can't decide on a good replacement for. I also vow to do more work on this to help clarify and give meaning to this article in the near future. Seems to me that as it stands, Rfrisbie is right...who cares? But it is actually an interesting topic in local politics, so...
Oh, and I'm gonna sick my lawyers on you for not liking Carmel. (I just work there.) Home is Fairland, Indiana.
3idiot 14:03, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Nice edit. See, nothing to it! Eventually, this article will come around.

Rfrisbietalk 14:09, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Needs more stats

Can someone add atleast the population and Demographics of this Nine-County Region plz? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.19.86 (talk) 04:29, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was move to Indianapolis Metropolitan Area. JPG-GR (talk) 18:49, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Nine-County Region → Indianapolis Metro Area — Growing up near Indianapolis, I don't recall hearing "Nine-County Region" being used to describe the area. Google does not help either, because the first page lists nine-county regions in Colorado, Illinois, California, Texas, North Carolina, and New York; but, nothing from Indiana. A page on Indiana's web site ([1]) calls the area "Indianapolis Metro Area", which is also a) more familiar to my ears, and more importantly b) much much less likely to cause confusion with any other areas.

Thus, I propose to move the article, and to set up a DAB page here for any other metropolitan areas which can also be called a nine-county region. Neier (talk) 12:34, 4 May 2008 (UTC) —Neier (talk) 12:34, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
  • Support for reasons outlined above. Neier (talk) 12:34, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Quasi-Support for reasons describe below. I oppose, however, the creation of multiple articles which address various narrower or broader ways of saying "Metro Indianapolis." One article under the broadest heading, and then sections for the subsectors, older term, etc. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:11, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

I would actually like to see this moved to Central Indiana so it would not get confused with Indianapolis-Carmel, IN Metropolitan Statistical Area. There are similar articles for regions in Indiana (Northwest Indiana, Southern Indiana, Northwest Indiana, etc) HoosierStateTalk 14:58, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

  • Why not Indianapolis Metropolitan Area as that is the more normal form for other metro areas? Vegaswikian (talk) 22:16, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
    • Indianapolis Metropolitan Area is fine as well. Central Indiana should include the entire band of the state between Illinois and Ohio (Terre Haute to Richmond), which is different from what this article currently contains. Redirecting Indianapolis Metropolitan Area to the MSA is an option, but because the census bureau keeps updating the definition, and AFAIK the area which people refer to as the metro/metropolitan area has been fairly consistent over the years, it makes marginal sense to keep the two articles separate. Neier (talk) 23:08, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
  • A couple of observations. First, there are no citations by which to verify the contents of the articles, or even whether such usage is in fact common. Second, assuming that such citations can be provided, is there enough distinctive content to warrant a separate article? I'd be inclined to merge this as a section within Indianapolis-Carmel, IN Metropolitan Statistical Area as a distinctive variant.older ≠ wiser 02:11, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
    • Upon search of GoogleBooks, GoogleScholar, etc., I find no real evidence that this usage is distinctive enough to warrant a separate article. I'd just include it as a footnote under Indianapolis Metropolitan Area. I suspect the main reason the usage persists is that there is a neat array of nine counties consisting of Indy itself and the eight "donut" counties; so it's always a tempting way of saying "Indianapolis and the contingent counties that surround it"! Somebody want to make the formal "merge" motion? --Orange Mike | Talk 19:08, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.