Talk:Indian Muslim nationalism

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Due to scare tactics by secular fundamentalist parties invoking an image of militant Hinduism, many Muslims ally themselves with Congress and other left-wing parties in the hopes of securing rights and privileges within the nation-state. This approach, driven primarily by the elite and educated classes is driven both by an alienation from "Islamic" Pakistan and realism. On the other hand it has estranged less privileged Indian Muslims who identify more with religious Hindus and believe that the Indian state has an obligation to enforce universal religious sensitivities. Despite this, many common Muslims will vote and identify with Congress for welfare support and a rejection of militant Hinduism. The recent economic policies of the left-wing coalition within the Indian Parliament has challenged this, and governmental overtures to attract right-wing Hindus has played a role in increasing support for the BJP, especially in the Southern states. All in all, Muslim perseverance in sustaining their continued advancement along with Government efforts to focus on Pakistan as the primary problem for Indian Muslims in achieving true minority rights has created a sometimes extreme support for Indian nationalism, giving the Indian State much-needed credibility in projecting a strong secular image throughout the rest of the world.

Some of the terms like "secular fundamentalists" either don't make sens eor need to be better defined. Overall Most of this stuff is POV.

134.174.1.17 03:58, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

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I put an NPOV on this article because of a glaring defect wrt maintaining a balanced viewpoint in the article. While the article writes a lot about the achievements and accomplishments of the moslems, it does not mention the fact that Islamic nationalism in countries such as Bangladesh and regions such as Indian Kashmir have led muslims to commit severe atrocities against Hindus and Buddhists, from property siezure to mass rapes and ethnic cleansing. The 2005 human rights report issued by the US department of state points out these problems here and here. This, and other human rights violations by the state as a product of Islamic Nationalism should be mentioned in this article in the appropriate context. While it is good to portray the supposedly positive side of Muslim Nationalism in the interests of maintaining neutrality, wikipedia writers should not whitewash it's history by ignoring it's significant dark side.

User: Subhash Bose. 05/03/06 04:07 am US Central Time

made some edits to this effect.Netaji 10:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I move that this article be moved to the Indian Nationalism Wiki

I know that having a separate article for Muslim Nationalism on the wiki is divisive and unhelpful to those that wish to find out about the various forms of nationalistic expression within India. There are many different religious movements within India - Muslim Nationalism within India is a nationalism that fits in well with Indian Nationalism. I hope that the major contributors to this article effort are happy with the idea of ensuring that this is done (Muslims achieve in fair proportions in many facets of Indian society, and, thus, I am sure that the contributors to this article are only too happy to ensure that this advice is followed for cohesive purposes). User: AxSingh. 090/08/2006 14:08 am (UTC)


[edit] population of muslims in india

from the time of independence of india to the current day the indian leaders have said that the muslim population of india is greater than that of pakistan. we should remember that bangladesh was also a part of pakistn before 1971.and in that year the population of west pakistan (that is the current day pakistan) was 80 milliom and that of east pakistan (that is the current day bangladesh) was 90 million if we add that we get apopulation of 170 million in 1971 of which 90% were muslim or 153 million . so how many muslims are today in india ?

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Islam_by_country" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madman 0014 (talk • contribs)

At least, the population figure for East Pakistan (1971) stated above is *wrong*. The population of independent Bangladesh, according to the 1974 census, was 71.3 million [1]. Even considering the large number of Bengalis (between 1-1.5 million) (both Hindu and Muslims) killed by Pakistan Army in Bangladesh Liberation War of 1971, the number was never above 75 million at that time. The population of west pakistan was lower than this, as Bengalis were 56% of the population of united pakistan. --Ragib 20:48, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bangladeshi nationalism

The claims made in the 7th paragraph of this section need references. I have never heard of the initial leadership of Bangladesh being described as brutal. I definitely do not agree with the claim that Bangladesh is moving towards becoming an Islamic State like Pakistan. The majority of the population certainly does not want Shariah as the country's law. For most Bengalis, their culture and language have always come before their religious identity. If religion were so important to them, then they would not have fought for independence from Pakistan.

-Shabeeb Rabbany